Well, Michael, 

And the source of these statistics is? 

I need more evidence and also alternative explanations.
Perhaps subscriptions are declining because of a ceiling effect? 

The same old same old gets recycled, and this is true on all lists that have 
longevity because new members are not aware of old discussions. Many of the 
previous responses are reformulated for the new members' benefit, by the older 
members who see this as a polite service. It is so much nicer than "go check 
the archives and don't bother us".

"important classroom issues" Please operationally define. I don't see these 
declining at all. In fact, in going out on a limb in response to the romantic 
attachment styles post, I have seen a few really great, helpful posts in the 
last two days. Yeah! I can better teach that part of intro now.

How can we possibly know anyone's ethnicity from this list? And, is that 
important. For example, how would anyone know that my maiden name is Kujawski. 
Now how Polish is that?  Would anyone guess that from my married name, Taylor? 
English is my second language. I was raised by post WWII immigrants who 
probably infused my generation of first generation Polish-Americans with a 
MUCH stronger cultural background than my birth cohort growing up in Poland! 
But that never comes through in tips. And it shouldn't! But it does make me 
eurocentric in upbringing, I guess. But let's face it, Annette Taylor. Sounds 
like I could be African American. Or Welsh. Or South African? Australian 
perhaps? And, like the Pope, I was raised Catholic, but if we go with Taylor 
for a moment here, well, I could be Protestant. But maybe I changed my 
religious orientation--actually, I was a devout Bahia for a long time before 
becoming a devout non-organized religiously affiliated person. So what's with 
the ethnicity count? Who's the Cuban? 

Has any one kept stats on the number of posts from international tipsters? I 
think they are on the upswing, especially from Canada and England. But I could 
be wrong, I haven't been keeping a count. 

Well, to get to my point, the reason you leave yourself open for ad hominem 
attacks is that you make grand sweeping statements without evidence to back 
them up. Some of the statements themselves suggest a parallel disregard of 
others as you suggest others demonstrate.

Unfortunately, that means that people even nit pick over typos. (Gee, I typed 
ad hominen the first time and had to go back and fix it so no one would nit 
pick over my typos.)

Now, what did all of this have to do with improving classroom instruction? How 
did I get pulled into this? Oh yeah, I still haven't finished those 40 APA lab 
reports...anything to get out of grading I guess.

Annette

Quoting sylvestm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  TIPS:
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>   - has seen a decline of 30 percent of subscribers
>  -  important classroom issues are in decline
>   -it is the same old same old recycled thang
>   - too Eurogenic
>   -decline in posts from international tipsters
>   - has failed to attract African-American and Latino profs
>   - a recent survey would indicate that there are only two black
>     tipsters and one Cuban and no moslems
>   - Ad hominen attacks on one tipster is on the rise from Jewish tipsters
>   -we have lost our sense of humor and tolerance for ambiguity(the
>     quintessential intelligent factor)
> 
> Michael Sylvester,PhD
> Daytona Beach,Florida
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Department of Psychology
University of San Diego 
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