While I'm more or les inclined to agree with your analysis, Nancy, I think what they journalist (NOTE!) means by this is that Flew is convinced by a kind of "inference to the best explanation" on the issue of first cause of the universe, rather than on the basis of a "personal experience of the divine" or some such. (Isn't there a point where the "best" available explanation is so bad that it is not worth inferring, even pro tem, and so we should just hold off adhering to *any* specific belief on the matter until we think of something better?)

It is intersting that religious folk are celebrating Flew's "conversion" as a "victory." There was a time when one would have been excommunicated (or worse) for "merely" being a deist of this sort. Averroes got in a good deal of trouble for this sort of thing, as I recall. (And some American evangelists spend a good deal of time trying to *deny* that Thomas Jefferson and several other of the "Founding Fathers" were deists of pretty much this same ilk.)

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Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/10/2004 2:02:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He now
believes in God ¨€” more or less ¨€” based on scientific evidence, and says so
on a video released Thursday.
This in itself is an illogical concept. There IS no scientific evidence for¨ God, because God is not a scientific concept. God is metaphysical and belief is a matter of FAITH.
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People who¨ look to science for evidence of God are demonstrating a lack of faith and I guess they really don't believe in anything - he may say he is a former¨ atheist but I don't think much has changed at all. Drivel.
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Nancy Melucci
Long Beach City College
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