Bob- Your comments are, imho, precisely on target. That along with the comment that someone else made (sorry, I deleted it) about insecurity of believers. It is interesting though how little those believing in an inerrent "Bible" know of the document or it's origin. It is as if they believe the thing dropped in a completed state from the pen of a single source. Frankly, the reality of the origins of the document are as interesting, deep, full of intrigue (and not a little hint of evil intent- though for a noble cause, I'm sure!) as is the history of the idea of evolution. (Though I would certainly not propose studying the evolution of the bible!). :)
I still puzzled by the number of those who are for error free sources who don't even know the history of the document they claim is error free. It is as if to know it would undermine their faith. Frankly, and I'm sure Bob is pointing this out as well, that doesn't reflect much faith when one won't even allow critical thinking about the document without labeling it heresy - and, of course, beating the heretic about the head and shoulders with a sharp sword, to parapharse the Koran. (And I agree with Stephen Black's comments about legal prohibitions against the discussion of theories that question evolution. That doesn't reflect much faith on the part of the scientists in the facts that support the theory.) But that's all part of what absolutists are about. I'm right and you are wrong - add in the, and you should change or else!!! Peace. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Robert Wildblood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 1/1/2006 3:13 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: ID ruling On 1 Jan 2006, at 16:37 PM, Shearon, Tim wrote, among other things: > > BTW- does that mean one can't still have faith- I think not. It > never ceases to amaze me why some make this whole issue one of > either evolution OR faith. I can't help but think that any and all > supreme beings would find such narrow focus a bit humorous (or > provocation to wrath depending on whether one's YHWH is the loving > or the vengeful type). :) It would be equally bold (and wrong, btw) > to assume that all who believe intelligent design plays into it are > equally wacky. For example, if one reads the stories purportedly > connected to scientology and compares those to the seeking of say > the Dali Lama one is not dealing with the same spirit of inquiry. :) I personally have absolutely no conflict between religious faith/ belief in a supreme being and evolution. To me the evidence for evolution is overwhelming, in spite of the fact that there are some gaps in the various "trees." If, however, I believed in the literal meaning of the "Bible," the conflict would be absolute. And, given the students I have in my classes in the midst of the Bible Belt as well as living in Indiana, the home of the rebirth place of the KKK, and the only state, to my knowledge, of having as part of its constitution, the prohibition of any African, Mulatto, or any person of mixed African blood from entering the state, I believe the number of those who believe in the literal meaning of the Bible, is very large. Bob Wildblood Lecturer in Psychology Indiana University Kokomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free societies are hopeful societies. And free Societies will be allies against those hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the drop of a whim." George W. Bush, September 17, 2004 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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