I will yield to Scott's judgement on the deficiencies in the study. My comment had only to do with the possible value of the experience, including its use in research.
   don
   Donald McBurney

Scott Lilienfeld wrote:

Just curious....

Am I the only TIPs member who finds it rather silly to conduct a study that on attachment that:

(1) relies exclusively on participants diagnosed with one of the most poorly validated diagnoses in the DSM (reactive attachment disorder, for which the validity evidence is very poor); (2) attempts to measure changes in attachment among a group of children with severe and lasting attachment deficits, who presumably would be among the very children most resistant to short-term changes in attachment; (3) anticipates statistically (and presumably clinically) significant changes in measured attachment behavior in children with severe and lasting attachment deficits as a consequence of a single videotaped presentation; (4) relies exclusively on an independent variable that almost surely exerts markedly multiple effects within and across participants (e.g., empathy, disgust, curiosity, fascination), rendering negative (and perhaps even positive) findngs difficult to interpret; (5) relies on an independent variable that features both (a) the birthing process itself and (b) modeling of parenting behavior with children, rendering any positive findings difficult to interpret; (6) relies on an independent variable that confounds two influences: (a) the direct exposure of participants to cute animals with (b) the direct witnessing of the birthing process in such animals, making it impossible to determine whether any positive findings might be due to (a), (b), or their interaction; and (7) relies solely on the birth of an animal rather than a human as an independent variable yet uses dependent measures that assess attachment to relationships with other children, so that negative findings could readily be due to an absence of generalization in attachment feelings across species?

If so, I guess I'll just have to play the role of TIPS Grinch today......

....Scott



Beth Benoit wrote:

I sent that info to a very bright student of mine who, with her husband, runs a farm with sheep and goats. I agree with her, and didn't find the paper to be ridiculous or astonishing at all. Below is an excerpt from her reply:

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
Portsmouth NH

   Do I take it that Scott Lilienfeld doubts the efficacy of the
experiment? Two years ago my neighbor brought her steadfastly unattached 21-year-old daughter to the farm to see the babies. They witnessed twin kids being born. The daughter promptly proposed to her boyfriend and had a
baby.  She says that seeing the birth and the mother goat's behavior
radically changed her feelings. Anecdotal but interesting.  I'm a firm
believer in animal behavior informing our own (for better and worse).




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