I came late to this thread, but I find it very interesting--especially Peter Harzem's response to Michael Smith's query below--it made me laugh because only a scientist could post that response : ). I have just a couple of observations to throw out there and I appologize if they've already been mentioned. First, isn't some of this closely related to the self-recognition research (e.g., the rouge test) that has been discussed before on this list? Second, I find it interesting that William James was such an enthusiast of stream of consciousness that he became enamored of the use of inhaled nitrous oxide as a way to expand one's consciousness. Carol
________________________________ From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:57 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Re: states of consciousness How would you know that your cat only looks for you when you are at home? M. A. Smith Harzem Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 26, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Paul Brandon wrote: > Pigeons have been taught to report internal states, such as whether > they are being affected by a psychoactive drug. Can we say that > they are 'conscious' of being in that state? Why, of course, Paul. (My cat is conscious of my being at home. That is the only time he comes looking for me. > If not, what is missing beyond the tautological observation that > they are not human? But, Paul, e.g. "X is not human" is not a tautological statement. Peter --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang= english ________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites <http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097;_ylc=X3oDMTFtNW45amVp BF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0w Nw--> to find flight and hotel bargains. --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang= english --- To make changes to your subscription go to: http://acsun.frostburg.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=tips&text_mode=0&lang=english
