Oh, my.  Apparently I was wrong; some of us *are* blaming the students.

Well, I'm not. Social pressures are powerful.  They just are.  It's a
rare individual indeed who can consistently resist it, and I believe
that the reason that students *can* resist it -- when they can --
because of people like us who encourage it.

Blaming students for something over which they have little or no control
doesn't change things.  Working to change the situation can change
things.

But then, I'm a determinist.  :)  I'm much more rarely angry at students
as a result.

m


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"There is no power for change greater than a community discovering what
it cares about."
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Margaret Wheatley 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Okami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:10 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

Who says that students are not culpable?  I for one respect students
enough to hold them culpable.  Simply because victimology is a national
ideology does not make it an accurate characterization of empirical
facts or existential realities.  It's amazing that we are afraid even to
imagine that people are responsible for their lives and their
development.

Paul Okami



----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?



Louis, I don't think any of us are blaming the students; I think we are
venting a collective lament at the *fact* that students don't read, not
that they're culpable.

m


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it cares about."
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Margaret Wheatley

-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:05 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?


I think some of us are being too harsh.  We aren't very understanding of
our very young students.  We're not walking in their shoes or
remembering how we were like at those ages.



Make it a good day.

      --Louis--


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