Hi

With respect to Swiss, Mccrae and colleagues do distinguish between German and 
French Swiss.  With respect to Neuroticism, for example, French Swiss tend to 
be high (like the French) and German Swiss low (like Germans).  We were near 
Lake Geneva this summer for a week and it really is quite striking the 
difference between Swiss in north and south with respect to "superficial" 
qualities (e.g., language, food).

Take care
Jim

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On 29 Aug 2008 at 19:50, Jim Clark wrote:

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> So I think the individual bits of information are probably correct
> (again subject to the article being published, as Stuart states), but
> the author appears to have missed a fundamental distinction in the
> literature.

Also curious that the headline announces that "Indians and Canadians see 
themselves as agreeable" (which of course piqued my interest) but nowhere 
does anything relating to either group appear in the body of the article.

This prevents me from repeating two of my favourite personality-type 
comments about Canadians:

1) A Canadian is someone who says "sorry" when someone steps on his toes 
(so we _are_ agreeable!)

2) In a contest which allegedly took place (the CBC is fingered), 
listeners were reminded that something characteristic of the USA is said 
to be "as American as...apple pie". They were asked for a similar saying 
for Canadians, "As Canadian as...".  The winner was "As Canadian as 
possible under the circumstances".

Regarding the validity of such national characteristics studies in 
general, it seems to me that a major problem is the diversity of the 
groups so characterized.  The supposedly conscientious Swiss, for 
example, mentioned in the article. Switzerland has at least three diverse 
ethic/cultural groups,  German and French and Italian. Are they all 
similarly conscientious?  And don't get me started on all the ways Canada 
can be subdivided (some certainly want to around here), and even 
Francophones and Anglophones come in many varieties and shapes and sizes 
and socio-economic levels and educations. How valid, then, are claims for 
a national personality?

But if we do have a national personality, perhaps it's this.  In a quip 
attributed to Stuart Keate, the publisher of the Vancouver Sun, we're  
''the vichyssoise of nations - cold, half-French and difficult to stir.''

Stephen 
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