I'd also be interested in hearing replies as I have noted that most texts and 
brochures that I find describing cognitive work is now actually social or 
developmental or is simply termed "neuroscience."  I can understand why 
psychologists might prefer to be seen as neuroscientists, but don't know if 
this is just the cognitive group.  
      Skinner is smiling ha.  Indeed, Annette commented:  "I like that good 
old-fashioned approach to cognitive "psychology" as relying primarily on 
behavior."   Skinner would REALLY be smiling!  Most of our "cognitive psych" 
folks are working in other areas, or as experimentalists, doing the 
research/stats line of work.  I wonder if those wishing to reference 
hypothetical inner processes have simply moved to social and developmental 
arenas to do so, while others find neurological speculation more to their 
liking?  It is interesting--perhaps history happened and we missed it ha.  Gary


Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D.
Professor, Psychology
Saginaw Valley State University
University Center, MI 48710
989-964-4491
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I posted this message to the other teaching list in psychology in regards to a 
request for advice on textbooks for cognitive psychology. It got no takers on 
the 
philosophical issues, so I post it here for philosophical discussion. I have 
greater confidence in my tips friends picking up on the core issues. Sorry to 
say 
but I find the other list very shallow.
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Timely question as I have been musing lately over the question "where has 
cognitive psychology gone?" It seems to me that judging by the newest texts 
and by the job ads that I see advertised in the Monitor and Observer for a 
"cognitive psychologist" that the mainstream definition has shifted away from 
an examination of behaviors from which we can infer that some kind of thought 
process is going on, to include things like sensation, perception, attention, 
sensory memory, short term (working, active) memory, long term memory, 
concept formation, semantic organization, problem solving, decision making, to 
a more biologically-based field. The mainstream definition seems to me to have 
shifted to looking at how we can link brain processes to various behaviors that 
had previously, partially allowed us to infer certain cognitive processes. 

So, with that long-winded preface, I was schooled in information processing 
and am sort of behind the times I think, as for undergraduates I like that good 
old-fashioned approach to cognitive "psychology" as relying primarily on 
behavior. So I like the Reed text. It is not as heavily based in neuroscience 
as 
some of the newer texts. For me personally, I enjoy the neuroscience slant, but 
I'm not sure that's a good point of departure for the students. I sometimes 
wonder where the dividing line is between some texts in biological psychology 
and some in cognitive psychology as the two approach one another (with a little 
bit of mathematical modeling thrown in) in cognitive neuroscience. But I'm not 
sure what I want to teach my students these days. 

Are we in the midst of a revolution? Or is this just a tweek, a bump in the 
paradigm that has dominated for the last 50 years? Clearly there are many 
anomalies, but is neuroscience the new normal science? Is it too soon to tell? 
I 
don't know. About two decades ago I was sure we were going to a neural 
network model paradigm dominating cognitive psychology but it has not 
happened. Why? I think the model was too "hard" for most people in the field--
the mathematical models went over many clinicians heads, who apply the 
cognitive field to therapy models.

So I guess the text you select will need to address your conception of where 
you 
see the field and what your students will need to know, and how much you want 
to rely on the "psychology" and how much on the neuroscience.

Sorry for the digression but it's been on my mind a lot lately.


Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110
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