Similar results have been found for US soccer players in the Olympic 
Development Program. The effect might only hold for male athletes though. I 
remember seeing a similar result for professional players in Europe. I am 
working from home today and don't have access to the references. I think that a 
search for "birth date and elite athlete" on Google Scholar will find some of 
that research. 

Best
Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] on behalf of Beth Benoit
Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 9:30 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] using "Outliers" in the classroom
 
What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.

Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
METHOD
Subjects
The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
Edmonton Minor Hockey
Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Here's a nice study with data.
>
> http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf
>
> Jim
>
>
> James M. Clark
> Professor of Psychology
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>
> >>> "Christopher D. Green" <[email protected]> 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM >>>
> Beth Benoit wrote:
> >
> >  The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
> > hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
> > the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
> > above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
> > out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
> > ....
> > I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
> > the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
> >  Stephen, Chris?
>
> Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
> mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
> three or four months of the year. But for all I know, she got this from
> the Gladwell book (which I haven't read).
>
> The general claim makes some sense to me. When kids are young, the size
> and coordination differences between those born in January and those
> born in December can be quite noticeable. I'd be a little surprised,
> however, if this continued on into the elite levels as strongly as is
> claimed for three reasons: (1) Many professional hockey players are
> mostly huge compared to the rest of us, and so they were probably never
> small compared to their classes, even if they were a few months younger
> then average. (2) It is not the case that once you're the best in your
> class you always remain that way. For instance, I was just talking to
> friends whose 14-yr-old daughter has been very good a volleyball until
> now. She was also taller than most of her classmates, but this year she
> her growth has slowed while many of her classmates have caught up or
> passed her, so she is quite suddenly not as dominant as she has been up
> to now. By the time one reaches elite levels of sport, I would expect
> that much of the early advantage would be neutralized. (3) At elite
> levels of a sport, sheer physical talent is an important factor. Most of
> we ordinary mortals could not compete with them even if we practiced as
> many hours a day as they do.
>
> Canada goes against Sweden for the world junior championship tonight! Go
> Canucks!
>
> Chris
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