On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:00:02 -0700, Christopher D. Green wrote:
>Stephen Black originally wrote:
>> I've been waiting for Chris Green to post this here, as he did on the 
>> History 
>> of Psychology list,  but as he doesn't seem to be going to, allow me. 
>
>Believe it or not, I tried to do exactly that yesterday afternoon, but 
>had run out of posts for the day. 

One does have to keep track of the number of posts one makes, especially
in those frivolous threads instead of important ones like this. :-)

>Here's what I attempted to post:
>
>We are all, by now, used to the idea that there are a lot of people in 
>the US who find Darwin's theory of evolution anathema to their firmly 
>held religious beliefs. But the new feature film about the impact that 
>the 1851 death of Darwin's daughter, Annie, had on both his own 
>religious beliefs and his scientific work has apparently been unable to 
>even find a distributor in the US and, so, will probably never be seen 
>in the major theaters there.
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html
>  
>(Thanks to new York grad student Eric Oosenbrug for pointing this 
>article out to me.)

I suggest that one take a firm grip of one's opinion and not become a 
premature evaluator.  The movie business is, surprisingly, a business and 
there are a lot of films that are presented at film festivals in the hope that 
they will find a distributor (major or minor but usually a minor distributor 
because, let's face it, most films presented at film festivals are not big 
money 
makers).  Concerning the news article linked to above, do we need to be 
reminded that we should be skeptical of anything that is presented in news 
that cannot be independently verified?  

For example:
|However, US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will 
|prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll 
|conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the 
|theory of evolution. 

A few questions:

(1) What does "resolutely passed" mean?  That instead of a simple
"no", distributors said "NO!"?

(2) "A film which will prove hugely divisive".  First, this isn't logic
or math, so the word "prove" is inappropriate to use in an inductive,
predictive sense.  Second, we are already divided on the issue of
Darwin which, I think, means that people who like Darwin might
go to see the movie and those who don't like Darwin might not go.
The real question is can the movie make its "nut", that is, can it
recover its costs of production, salaries, advertising, and such.
Does anyone know how much it cost to make the movie?  Does
anyone know what the deal is that the producers of the movie
are trying to make with distributors? Are the terms of the
distribution deal likely to produce a profit or a loss?

(3)  Implicit in the article is the notion that this picture will be
profitable yet there is no economic analysis provided to support
this point, instead an argument is made that the distributors are
afraid because of an anti-Darwin backlash (really? which distributors?
what deals were offerred to them and what would they earn as a return?)

(4) Even if a "major" distributor cannot be found in the U.S. this does
not mean the movie will not be shown in the U.S.  Has anyone asked
which U.S. film festivals the producers have entered the movie?
Eventually, the film will be available on DVD and will probably play
on channels like IFC or Sundance or other "indie" film channels.
Or one can just wait until the first bootleg copy is made available
on the internets.

>I would have thought that the revenues from major coastal cities alone 
>would have been enough to entice a  distributor to pick it up, but 
>(apparently) the anticipated backlash (boycotts, etc.), presumably 
>against other movies or products sold by the same company, has caused 
>them to decline one of the major releases of the year. Quizzical.

The real question is why you think this is an appropriate characterization
of the situation.  Again, which distributors were approached?  What were
the deals offered to them?  Was it really fear of an anti-Darwin backlash
or were the economic terms simply unworkable?  Listen, if Lars von Trier
can get his films shown in the U.S., pretty much anyone can (I use von
Trier as an example because he is probably the quinessential "art" house
type of director as well as having use the actor Paul Bettany [Darwin
in "Creation"] in his movie "Dogville" which had a brief run in art house
cinemas and shows up periodically on the IFC channel -- at 178 minutes
one has to be a committed film lover to sit through it; see:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276919/ )

Perhaps there are other fears, for example:

(1)  Because Paul Bettany played the kill crazy albino monk in the
"The Da Vince Code", maybe distributors are afraid of a backlash
by Catholics or maybe kill crazy albinos.  For more on Bettany's 
film work, see:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0079273/

(2)  Because Jennifer Connelly appeared in the horrible Ang Lee
movie "Hulk", maybe distributors are afraid of having her in a film
because of angry people who want their money back from going to
see "Hulk" in theaters.  For more on Connely's film work, see:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000124/

(3)  Because the Director Jon Amiel directed the horrible
Sean Connery/Catherine Zeta-Jones film "Entrapment", distributors
are afraid of angry protesting Creation because of the 113 minutes
they won't get back from watching this POS.  For more on Amiel's
work, see:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000750/

Then again, its not like there was a lovefest for "Creation" at the
Toronto International Film Festical (or TIFF).  For example, see
Roger Ebert's blog on the TIFF showing of "Creation", see:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/09/tiff_4_darwin_walks_out_on_gen.html

In summary, it is unlikely that "Creation" will have the box office of, say,
"Iron Man" (in which Bettany played a character named Jarvis) but it is
ultimately likely to be distributed somehow in the U.S. (I would not be
surprised if the IFC Center or some other arthouse/alternative cinema
in NYC shows it).  In all likelihood, it will make it to the channels IFC
or Sundance or others on cable.  And then there will be the DVDs and
the downloadable version.  If there is a fear that one might not be able 
to see "Creation", don't worry.  I'm pretty sure someone may be putting
up a bootleg version soon either from TIFF or elsewhere. That is, if there
is any demand for it.

-Mike Palij
New York University
[email protected]





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