���On 1 October 2009 in a posting headed "for Marc Carter" Michael Sylvester wrote: >I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips >archives but I did not receive the post in my regular >mail. I am preparing to take action against Frostburg >State through the ACLU if my First amendment rights >are been violated FSU could lose some federal funds.
The only question posed by Marc recently (as far as I can see) is the following: > I lived in the Dominican Republic; baseball is bigger >there than it is here, so naturally there are going to be >a lot of good players coming out of there. In what way >is that a bad thing? Why Michael follows his remark about a question f rom Marc with his reference to First Amendment rights is unclear. It would make more sense in relation to Jim Matiya's criticisms of Michael's language and tone in a couple of his recent postings (see below) followed by Bill Southerly's response, "This matter is being addressed". My immediate reaction to Bill's comment was a concern that some action was being considered in relation to Michael's comments that some people (most I suggest) find offensive. My own feeling about such comments is that if they are continued after objections have been made (as in the case of his use of "chicks" for women), then subsequent postings from Michael should be ignored. Of course we don't know w hat Bill meant by the matter being addressed, but I think that (within limits – something of course difficult to define) there should not be heavy-handed action against someone who uses language most of us find offensive, or as in the following instance, unworthy of a response: > Ken,Jim: >Your posts are ridiculous. Are bystanders' apathy only >reserved for white people?... >Obviously you all know nothing about a black community. >Gimme a break. Keep your eurocentric cognitive imperialistic >analysis in the classrom. dude. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London http://www.esterson.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- 0A[tips] for Marc Carter michael sylvester Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:37:38 -0700 I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips archives but I did not receive the post in my regular mail. I am preparing to take action against Frostburg State through the ACLU if my First amendment rights are been violated FSU could lose some federal funds Anyway, re your question about the Dominican Republic: yep,baseball is very popular in the DR,Panama,Porto Rico and Nicaragua and they have produced excellent players for baseball in the U.S so recruitment from those countries would be a good idea. However,among some Afro-American scholars,the Central American irecruitment has helped to dil ute the hope and aspirations of many black youth in the U.S who aspire to be players but view the Central American initiatives as competing and puts them at an unfair disadvantage. Some Afro-American scholars also see trhis as the Hispanization of the game-as if the game had become too Africanized.Interestingly enough,most of those players have African ancestry and would be considered as black according to the U.S "one drop" rule.But Dominicans are very racist in denying their African roots because of the "mulatto escape hatch" concept. But more on this later. Hope this helps. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- RE: [tips] NFL/Tuskegee flashback Marc Carter Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:57:01 -0700 I lived in the Dominican Republic; baseball is bigger there than it is here, so naturally there are going to be a lot of good players coming out of there. In what way is that a bad thing? -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts & Sciences Baker University ----------------------------------------- Re: [tips] Kitty Genovese/The Windy City Bill Southerly Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:30:28 -0700 FYI, This matter is being addressed. Bill TIPS ListManager ----------------------------------------------- On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Jim Mati ya wrote: > > Once again, we are subjected to Michaels' words that spread hurt, > disappointment, and degrade a person. He has done this consistently > over the past several years because he does not agree with another > person's post. Just last week, several women objected to his reference > of women as "chicks." > > Michael, you know nothing about who I am, where I have lived and my > experiences. Yet, you feel you have the right to criticize me and > others, because of their race, because of their posts (too many > references, too many examples), because of their sexuality. > > Here is the link to the complete video taken by a student at Fenger > High School. Watch it and make your own decisions. Be careful, it is > difficult to watch. At 42 seconds into the video, Derrion Albert is > hit with a board. I do not know what people 100-200 yards were doing. > The video does not show that. > > http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/weis_three_suspects > > I love TIPS and I enjoy all the wonderful people who > contribute different ideas and strategies. Michaels' words are mean > and degrading. I do not deserve to be spoken to in such a tone nor do > the others. Last year a psychologist left the list-serv because of his > posts. I don't want to do that, but I am considering it. > > JIm > > Jim Matiya <i.p.emwink.gif> > Florida Gulf Co ast University > [email protected] --------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [tips] Kitty Genovese/The Windy City > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:36:25 -0400 > > > Ken,Jim: > Are you trying to say that there were no bystanders' apathy because > two black gangs were > involved? Your posts are ridiculous. Are bystanders' apathy only > reserved for white people? > I saw the video too but the video did not capture folks who were 100 > or 200 yards away. > There were ordinary people around and this fact has been a matter of > discussion on the major news network.Obviously you all know nothing > about a black community.Gimme a break. > Keep your eurocentric cognitive imperialistic analysis in the > classrom.dude. > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([email protected])
