I've been doing it since January, 2009, with no ill effects. The only downside is, as Paul Bernhardt wrote, I still have to filter out the responses from those who can't resist responding.Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Paul C Bernhardt <[email protected]>wrote: > > I am able to ignore him, that is what mail filters on email programs are > for. What I can’t filter out is everyone else’s responses to him, without > also filtering out your good posts in other threads. > > Not feeding trolls will go exactly as Nancy describes. If they see a > cut-back in responses to their posts, they roar louder to get more > attention, and it usually works. > > I’ve never seen a troll successfully ignored on an email list or public > posting forum in the 20 years I’ve been an active on internet forums. If > they go away it is because they stepped over a line that resulted in their > arrest or other legal action (2 instances, one of each type) or something in > their personal life intervenes (I was aware of the death of one troll, was > made aware of the threat of divorce curtailing the action of another troll). > > > I’ve never seen an entire group fully ignore a troll. So, the theory that > ignoring a troll to make them go away is, in my experience, untested. > > Can TIPS be the first? I think it might be a publishable paper! <grin> > > > On 10/2/09 9:29 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I swear, if we could just all make ourselves stop responding to these > provocative, mean-spirited trolls, first we'd see an escalation, (the > pre-extinction "burst) and then they would go away. > > As long as we continue to indulge this nonsense, it will dominate our TIPS > list, and many good contributors will be driven away. I am tired of the > "MSTIPS" list activity. It's not our list anymore, it's his. > > I and a few other valiant souls are trying to ignore him, but as long as > other people continue to respond, we'll continue to have this crap inflicted > on us. > > Nancy Melucci > Long Beach City College > Long Beach CA > > njm > Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! > > > In a message dated 10/2/2009 6:25:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I was likewise puzzled. Apparently "some scholars" say that recruiting > Latinos from countries where baseball is huge is contributing to the > de-American-Africanization of American baseball. > > But here's my puzzlement: Michael asserts that *to Americans*, most > Dominicans would be considered to be of African descent (as indeed most > are, along with Caribbean Indian -- and btw, they are the most beautiful > people I have ever seen). > > So, I find preposterous in the extreme the idea that there's some > nefarious plot among the owners and managers of American baseball teams to > exclude Americans of African descent in favor of Latinos of African > descent. > > Maybe I'm just thick, but that just makes no sense at all. > > m > > -- > Marc Carter, PhD > Associate Professor and Chair > Department of Psychology > College of Arts & Sciences > Baker University > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Allen Esterson > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]> > ] > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:21 AM > > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > > Subject: [tips] for Marc Carter > > > > On 1 October 2009 in a posting headed "for Marc Carter" > > Michael Sylvester wrote: > > >I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips archives > > but I did > > >not receive the post in my regular mail. I am preparing to > > take action > > >against Frostburg State through the ACLU if my First > > amendment rights > > >are been violated FSU could lose some federal funds. > > > > The only question posed by Marc recently (as far as I can see) is the > > following: > > > I lived in the Dominican Republic; baseball is bigger there > > than it is > > >here, so naturally there are going to be a lot of good > > players coming > > >out of there. In what way is that a bad thing? > > > > Why Michael follows his remark about a question f rom Marc > > with his reference to First Amendment rights is unclear. It > > would make more sense in relation to Jim Matiya's criticisms > > of Michael's language and tone in a couple of his recent > > postings (see below) followed by Bill Southerly's response, > > "This matter is being addressed". > > > > My immediate reaction to Bill's comment was a concern that > > some action was being considered in relation to Michael's > > comments that some people (most I suggest) find offensive. My > > own feeling about such comments is that if they are continued > > after objections have been made (as in the case of his use of > > "chicks" for women), then subsequent postings from Michael > > should be ignored. > > > > Of course we don't know w > > hat Bill meant by the matter being addressed, but I think > > that (within limits - something of course difficult to > > define) there should not be heavy-handed action against > > someone who uses language most of us find offensive, or as in > > the following instance, unworthy of a response: > > > > > Ken,Jim: > > >Your posts are ridiculous. Are bystanders' apathy only reserved for > > >white people?... > > >Obviously you all know nothing about a black community. > > >Gimme a break. Keep your eurocentric cognitive imperialistic > > analysis > > >in the classrom. dude. > > > > Allen Esterson > > Former lecturer, Science Department > > Southwark College, London > > http://www.esterson.org > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > ------- > > 0A[tips] for Marc Carter > > michael sylvester > > Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:37:38 -0700 > > > > I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips archives > > but I did not receive the post in my regular mail. I am > > preparing to take action against Frostburg State through the > > ACLU if my First amendment rights are been violated FSU could > > lose some federal funds Anyway, re your question about the > > Dominican Republic: yep,baseball is very popular in the > > DR,Panama,Porto Rico and Nicaragua and they have produced > > excellent players for baseball in the U.S so recruitment from > > those countries would be a good idea. > > However,among some Afro-American scholars,the Central > > American irecruitment has helped to dil ute the hope and > > aspirations of many black youth in the U.S who aspire to be > > players but view the Central American initiatives as > > competing and puts them at an unfair disadvantage. > > Some Afro-American scholars also see trhis as the > > Hispanization of the game-as if the game had become too > > Africanized.Interestingly enough,most of those players have > > African ancestry and would be considered as black according > > to the U.S "one drop" > > rule.But > > Dominicans are very racist in denying their African roots > > because of the "mulatto escape hatch" concept. > > But more on this later. > > Hope this helps. > > > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > > Daytona Beach,Florida > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > ------- > > > > RE: [tips] NFL/Tuskegee flashback > > Marc Carter > > Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:57:01 -0700 > > I lived in the Dominican Republic; baseball is bigger there > > than it is here, so naturally there are going to be a lot of > > good players coming out of there. In what way is that a bad thing? > > > > -- > > Marc Carter, PhD > > Associate Professor and Chair > > Department of Psychology > > College of Arts & Sciences > > Baker University > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Re: [tips] Kitty Genovese/The Windy City Bill Southerly Wed, > > 30 Sep 2009 14:30:28 -0700 FYI, > > > > This matter is being addressed. > > > > Bill > > TIPS ListManager > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Jim Mati > > ya wrote: > > > > > > > > Once again, we are subjected to Michaels' words that spread hurt, > > > disappointment, and degrade a person. He has done this consistently > > > over the past several years because he does not agree with another > > > person's post. Just last week, several women objected to his > > reference > > > of women as "chicks." > > > > > > Michael, you know nothing about who I am, where I have > > lived and my > > > experiences. Yet, you feel you have the right to criticize me and > > > others, because of their race, because of their posts (too many > > > references, too many examples), because of their sexuality. > > > > > > Here is the link to the complete video taken by a student > > at Fenger > > > High School. Watch > > it and make your own decisions. Be careful, it is > > > difficult to watch. At 42 seconds into the video, Derrion Albert is > > > hit with a board. I do not know what people 100-200 yards > > were doing. > > > The video does not show that. > > > > > > http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/weis_three_suspects > > > > > > I love TIPS and I enjoy all the wonderful people who contribute > > > different ideas and strategies. Michaels' words are mean and > > > degrading. I do not deserve to be spoken to in such a tone > > nor do the > > > others. Last year a psychologist left the list-serv because of > > his > > > posts. I don't want to do that, but I am considering it. > > > > > > JIm > > > > > > Jim Matiya <i.p.emwink.gif> > > > Florida Gulf Co > > ast University > > > [email protected] > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [tips] Kitty Genovese/The Windy City > > > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:36:25 -0400 > > > > > > > > > Ken,Jim: > > > Are you trying to say that there were no bystanders' apathy because > > > two black gangs were involved? Your posts are ridiculous. Are > > > bystanders' apathy only reserved for white people? > > > I saw the video too but the video did not capture folks who > > were 100 > > > or 200 yards away. > > > There were ordinary people around and this fact has been a > > matter of > > > discussion on the major news network.Obviously you all know nothing > > > about a black community.Gimme > > a break. > > > Keep your eurocentric cognitive imperialistic analysis in the > > > classrom.dude. > > > > > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > > > Daytona Beach,Florida > > > > > > --- > > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > > Bill Southerly ([email protected]) > > > > The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto > ("e-mail") is sent by Baker University ("BU") and is intended to be > confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. > The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and > disclosures acts or other legal rules. 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