>From: jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: TIPS Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Harris debate
>Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:49:55 -0600 (CST)
>
>Hi
>
>On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Jeffrey Nagelbush wrote:
> > jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >Certainly at the most molecular level, there are extremely
> > >striking effects of family. For example, whether one is
> > >Episcopelian or Jewish or Anglican or [name your favorite sect]
> > >is pretty much determined, I would guess, by the family into
> > >which one is born. But now you are saying that if we throw
> > >Atheists and Agnostics into the mix, the effect disappears.
> > >That is, whether one falls into the superset of religious sects
> > >(i.e., the many religious affiliations) or the superset of
> > >non-religious sects (i.e., Atheists, Agnostics, ...) is not
> > >determined by family. It just seems that something is fishy
> > >here. And if it is fishy for religion, then what does that say
> > >about the other constructs for which 0-family influence is
> > >claimed?
> >
> > I do not know what fishy means here.
>
>Inconsistent or contradictory? We were told that the rs for
>religiosity suggest no general family influence. But whether one
>belongs to a particular religious (or irreligious?) group seems
>clearly dependent on family. How is it possible for families to
>determine whether one is Jewish, Lutheran, Agnostic, ... without
>producing a family effect on religiosity? One possibility is
>again the problem with twin and adoption studies restricting the
>range of the family variables. Would, for example, adoption
>agencies consider religion in placing children?
>
I do not whether or not adoption agencies include religion. However, I do
not think religiosity refers to any particular religion, but rather to a
general orientation to religion and religious beliefs. And it is these more
general beliefs or orientation that show no family effect.
Jeff
Jeff Nagelbush
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ferris State University
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