Ed

Oh, I get in conservatives' face too. I finally read more about the work that 
inspired the posts, and data is data, but I really think they over-reached on 
the interpretation ... 

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John W. Kulig 
Professor of Psychology 
Plymouth State University 
Plymouth NH 03264 
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Religion without science is blind; science without religion is lame - A. 
Einstein
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Pollak" <epol...@wcupa.edu>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:03:04 AM
Subject: Re: [tips] Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent





Oustanding post, John. I hereby nominate you for Tipster of the 
week................... although I have gotten a lot of pleasure sending this 
article to my right wing friends. 

Ed 






Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. 

Department of Psychology 

West Chester University of Pennsylvania 

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Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, & bluegrass fiddler...... in 
approximate order of importance. 





Re: [tips] Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent 
John Kulig 
Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:58:05 -0800 

Well .... it's an intriguing hypothesis, and though I usually have 
knee-jerk 
'yes' responses to anything evolutionary, could it simply be that more 
intelligent people think more, therefore more likely to have thoughts 
out of 
the main-stream? 

Also, it's quite a stretch to associate conservative with religion over 
even a 
short time and space. Religion & liberalism are often tied together - 
in 
Australia, for instance, where the % of religious people is very low, 
but those 
who are religious are into social justice. Know a visitor from 
Australia who 
was puzzled by the religion-conservative link in the US. Perhaps being 
"religious" there is a "novel idea". 

There is so much diversity under the terms "conservative" and 
"religious" as to 
make the claims superficial. Just a few examples: What passes for 
conservative 
today in the US (very ideological) bears little resemblance to what 
"conservative" was to the founder of modern conservatism (Edmund Burke) 
whose 
"conservatism" took the form of criticizing mob rule after the French 
Revolution (as well as its ideological thinking) (no doubt HE was 
intelligent 
and was simply going against the zeitgeist?). The same can be said of 
religion, 
to lump the tremendous variety, from orthodox liturgical practices to 
the 
highly individualistic practices of some christian churches, not to 
mention the 
interesting practice of lumping wild sex into religious practices 
(Rasputin 
tied his spiritual/ Russian Orthodox beliefs to some great parties I 
hear). 
Religiously conservative black churches in the US are sometimes hot 
beds of 
social liberal activism. And Catholic 'liberation theology' is 
radically left 
and socialistic. What is the common thread between all these things? 
Having a 
solid operational definition of these terms would help (there are some, 
not 
sure they are universally accepted). I suspect it is easier 
operationalizing 
spirituality that religiosity and atheism. 

No doubt we can empirically get "average" data for these terms, but 
statisticians sometimes remind us that averages can be applied 
inappropriately, 
as when we correctly say that the average American has one testicle and 
one 
ovary :-) 



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