Thanks for the link to the whole article, Scott. This is useful for all of us who advise students.
I talked to my student about the MSW but he thinks a PsyD "might" open more doors for him than an MSW. I have tried to disabuse him of that idea but only have this year to convince him. He is now a senior. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 [email protected] ________________________________________ From: Lilienfeld, Scott O [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:11 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE:[tips] PsyD programs Hi Annette - The rankings provided by Jim and Miguel are useful as rough guides. One key point. Your student should understand that all Psy.D. programs, at least those that are APA accredited, require a dissertation, although the extent to which the dissertation requires systematic research (as opposed, for example, to a case study or series of case studies) varies considerably across programs. To my knowledge, even the non-accredited Psy.D. programs require a dissertation of some sort, although there may be rare exceptions of which I'm unaware. He should certainly also look into social work programs if he wants to be a practicing clinician. As Dick McFall and others have noted, the future almost surely lies with MSWs, not Psy.Ds. See below for a sobering, although realistic, discussion: http://data.psych.udel.edu/abelcher/Shared%20Documents/7%20Professional%20Issues%20(25)/mcfall%202005%20articulating%20values%20and%20principles.pdf ....Scott ________________________________________ From: Annette Taylor [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:17 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] PsyD programs I know that many folks poo poo psy d programs and I understand why that is so. But I also understand from other folks that some of these programs are quite good. (Scott are you there? can you answer this one?) I have a student who would like to go the psy d route--respects research, has worked with me in the past, but just doesn't want to do a dissertation; prefers the additional clinical training and knows he wants to be a clinician and not a researcher later on, although wants to be intelligent about the research evidence. He would like some guidance on "better" programs. I am not a clinician and don't keep up as well as maybe a clinician might. Collective wisdom please on this issue--which are some of the better psy d programs. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 [email protected] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9b2f&n=T&l=tips&o=4575 or send a blank email to leave-4575-13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0&n=T&l=tips&o=4579 or send a blank email to leave-4579-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=4595 or send a blank email to leave-4595-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
