Hi

If you look at the science requirement in our calendar at:

http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/index/cms-filesystem-action/pdfs/calendar/2009-2010-course-calendar.pdf
 

you will find that a number of psychology courses count for (natural) science 
credit.

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c. The Science Requirement
Students must complete a minimum of 6 credit hours in
Science courses in the Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Business
Administration degrees and 18 credit hours in the Bachelor of
Science degree. In some cases, students may fulfil the Science
Requirement and the Major Requirement with the same courses. In
others, additional courses identified by the department must be
taken. (Cross-listed courses will fulfil the Science requirement if
one of the courses is designated as Science.)
The following University of Winnipeg subject area courses fulfil
the Science requirement:
...
Psychology: Only PSYC-2101(3); PSYC-2102(3); PSYC-
2600(3);PSYC-2610(3); PSYC-2620(3); PSYC-
2800(3); PSYC-2810(3); PSYC-2900(3)
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These courses are: data analysis, research methods, attention and memory, 
perception, psycholinguistics, learning, and physiological.  Perhaps some 
psychology departments have not pursued as strongly as others a commitment to 
the treatment of our discipline as a science within their institutions?  Or 
perhaps members of some departments themselves do not see or teach psychology 
as a science?  Or perhaps some natural science departments want to maintain 
their turf and therefore exclude psychology?  

Personally, I do not look to others to define what it is I strive to do as an 
academic psychologist.

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
Professor of Psychology
204-786-9757
204-774-4134 Fax
[email protected]

>>> Michael Smith <[email protected]> 04-Dec-10 10:30:00 AM >>>
The requirements I've seen in Canada typically have a course in the
social sciences as part of the core.

But, the core also includes a "science" credit. The only choices are
the physical sciences and sometimes math.
Any psychology courses would count as a credit in the "social
sciences" but not as a "science" credit.

With regard to Rick's comment, of course the the traditional physical
sciences (Biology, Chemistry, and Physics) are the quintessential
sciences...to argue otherwise, even obliquely would be at minimum be
odd).

Often now are added things such as Astronomy, Geology, and
Environmental Science (tends to be combinations of geology,
oceanography, and meteorology) and sometimes Math.

But no psychology course can count as a "science" credit--only as
credit in a discipline under the rubric of "social sciences"

This says, to me, that educators do not consider the social sciences
as a bonafide science. (I think this applies to high school too).
And usually one cannot get a psychology credit to be considered a
science credit by university administration.

So if university and public school educators and administrators (and
of course the general public) do not consider psychology a science,
then it seems that the only ones who might are psychologists
themselves (hence I think Chris' comment).

--Mike

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