Below is what I wrote--*not* disagreeing just asking.  Hope that's 
acceptable. 

Joan Warmbold wrote:
> Interesting suppositions Stephen--any data to back them up?
>
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>> Chris Green, who no longer appears to be with us (was it something we
>> said?), has flagged (elsewhere) an interesting study, here:
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/shocking-experiment-money/
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>> The point seems to be that you don't need a Milgram-type Nazi to get
>> you to give shocks to someone else, only a little money.
>>
>> Hmm. I beg to disagree. I think the experimenters fail to give their
>> subjects enough credit. They may even be smarter than the
>> experimenters.
>>
>> I think they may have figured out that the study is a set-up, and no
>> one is really going to get shocked.  After all, who hasn't heard
>> about Milgram these days or about devious experimenters. So they
>> happily go along with the role-play and pretend to shock the
>> "victim". The experimenters hand over the cash and no one gets hurt.
>>
>> Pretty good deal: the subjects get paid, and the experimenters get a
>> paper. No one feels guilty. I bet the subjects even have the decency
>> to pretend not to know it's all a fake when asked about it.
>>
>> (This also explains why seeing the face as well as the hand reaction
>> reduces the amount earned. With the face, they may be a little less
>> confident in their conclusion it's all a fake--but not by much.)
>>
>> Stephen
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>> Professor of Psychology, Emeritus
>> Bishop's University
>> Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
>> e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
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