In all seriousness, it's likely that you have developed a tolerance to the
effects, including subjective ones.
Carol


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <[email protected]> wrote:

>         As much as Mike's hypothesis appeals to me, the weed seems to
> affect others here.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Karl L. Wuensch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Palij [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Cc: Michael Palij
> Subject: Re:[tips] Why my mind no longer changes on weed?
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 03:38:56 +0000, , Karl LWuensch wrote:
> > It stopped having any noticeable effect on me, many years ago.
> > Is this unusual?  How does this happen?
> > Cheers,
>
> Dear Karl,
>
> I don't know how to say this delicately so I'll just say it straight:
> it is God's punishment for the evil and wicked behavior of North Carolina
> (NC) both past and present.  Yes, whatever euphoric or other positive
> effects marijuana might have had on residents of NC have been suspended for
> the sins that they and their ancestors have committed.  Why would God
> choose to eliminate the positive effects of marijuana as His/Her/It's
> punishment?  I don't know but God does work in mysterious ways.  As for
> them there sins, allow me to elucidate:
>
> (1) Eugenics:  forced sterilization and other eugenics practices were
> popular in the U.S. before WWII (just ask Chris Green), some saying that
> this was the inspiration for the Nazi laws for increasing the "fitness" of
> the German people.  For the role that North Carolina played, see this
> article from the Salon website:
>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/08/11/north_carolinas_shocking_history_of_sterilization/
>
> Briefly quoting from the article:
>
> |North Carolina's first sterilization law was recorded in 1919, but
> |sterilizations did not begin until 1929, after the passage of Buck v.
> |Bell, when one vasectomy, one castration, and one ovariectomy were
> |performed (the state's law was unusual in allowing castrations for
> |"therapeutic treatment"). ...
> |By July 1935, the state had sterilized 223 men and women, most of them
> |residents of state-run institutions.
> (It is unclear whether "state-run institutions" included state colleges).
>
> It should be noted that NC was NOT the first to propose a eugenics
> sterilization law; that honor goes to Indiana who passed a law in 1907.
>  But don't think that Indiana is getting away scot free: it is being
> published by having Republican governors and putting some of them in charge
> of the state's major universities; see:
> http://socialistworker.org/2013/08/14/whats-wrong-with-indiana
> and
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/07/17/e-mails-reveal-censorship-efforts-by-mitch-daniels-as-indiana-governor/
>
> But let's get back to NC's activities that have robbed their residents of
> marijuana's positive effects.
>
> (2) Voter Suppression: current Governor Pat McCrory has just signed a
> state law that will restrict non-Republicans from voting.
> For background on this see:
> http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/North_Carolina_Joins_The_Parade
> Even the Catholics are upset by it; see:
> http://ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/shame-north-carolina
> These anti-democracy tendencies cannot go unpunished.
>
> (3) Arresting Riff-Raff:  By riff-raff I don't mean ordinary people but
> the rapper Riff Raff.  Riff Raff is from Houston, Texas and as everyone
> knows: "You don't mess with Texas".  See:
>
> http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2013/08/riff-raff-arrested-in-north-carolina/
>
> (4) Anti-Sharia Law Laws:  NC has recently passed a law that would prevent
> Sharia or Islamic law from being imposed on North Carolina. See:
>
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/09/north-carolina-your-anti-sharia-law-takes-the-cake.html
>
> Quoting from the Daily Beast article:
>
> |Why would Republicans in North Carolina feel the need to prevent a
> |threat they admit isn't real?  Even the North Carolina Bar Association
> |called the legislation unnecessary.
> |
> |Maybe looking at the legislative history of this proposed bill will
> |give you some insight. The Republican-controlled House's version also
> |included provisions to restrict a woman's right to an abortion. So in
> |the very same breath these Republicans were trying to prevent Islamic
> |law from being imposed, they were trying to impose Christian law.
> |
> |No surprise, then, that they fear Muslims will be trying to impose
> |their own religious-based laws-it's exactly what these Republicans are
> |trying to do.
>
> There is an important note:
>
> |What's interesting about the proposed North Carolina law is that it
> |doesn't mention the word Islam or Sharia. Why? Likely because a law
> |passed a few years ago in Oklahoma that specifically singled out
> |banning Islamic law was struck down by the federal courts.
>
> So, those crafty, cunning, and crazy Republicans used the term "foreign
> law" instead of Islamic law but we all know what is really meant
> *wink-wink*.
> This does raise some interesting questions such as "Does North Carolina
> now have to remove all parts of its state law that are based on English
> legal traditions as well as that of other European and American (i.e.,
> Canadian, Mexican, South Amereican) traditions?  The article ends by
> pointing out that about 10% of the Africans brought to America in the slave
> trade and that President Thomas Jefferson held an iftar (end of fasting at
> nightfall during Ramadan; for more details see:
> http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/islam-in-america/  )
>
> (5) Guns: Well, I guess everyone knows that one can't be a real SAS
> programmer unless one is packing serious heat (SAS's world headquarters are
> in Cary, NC). And the companies in the Research Triangle Park (RTP) know
> that a worker with a gun is a happy worker (for companies in RTP see:
> http://www.rtp.org/about-rtp/rtp-companies
>
> Among the companies in RTP is the national honor society Sigma Xi.
> I guess after all those years in New Haven, the society's administrators
> feel better about being able to shoot first.
>
> I point out these things because the gun company Sturm Ruger has decided
> to move its manufacturing factory from Southport, Connecticut, to Raleigh,
> N.C.  It appears that the gun company did like the atmosphere in
> Connecticut after the December 14, 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary
> School in Newtown.  But NC knows how to make a gun maker feel right at
> home; see:
>
> http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/56729531-79/gun-ruger-sturm-connecticut.html.csp
>
> And, for now, last but not least, perhaps the most disturbing activity
> that has brought the wrath of you-know-who on NC:
>
> (6) Pet Flipping: this refers to the stealing of pets and then selling
> them.
> See:
>
> http://www.wnct.com/story/23128449/dog-stealing-trend-on-the-rise-in-eastern-north-carolina
> I note that this activity seems to be taking place in eastern NC.  Hmmm,
> who do we know from eastern NC? ;-)
>
> -Mike Palij
> New York University at Sodom on Hudson
> [email protected]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:54:14 -0700, Carol DeVolder wrote:
> >>I wonder what impact this more or less open letter will have:
> >>
> >>http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gupta-changed-mind-marijuana/
> >
> > I've read Gupta's article and the follow-up posts on Tips and I'd like
> > to make a couple of points:
> >
> > (1) Here is the text of what constitutes a Schedule I narcotic
> > according to the DEA:
> >
> > |Schedule I
> > |
> > |Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with
> > |no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.
> > |Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug
> > |schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical
> > |dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:
> > |
> > |heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis),
> > |3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote
> >
> > Anyone who has any experience with marijuana will appreciate the
> > absurdity of having it identified as a Schedule I drug.  Why alcohol
> > is not listed here is the real question.  Oh, and cocaine,
> > methamphetamine (for "Breaking Bad" fans), oxycodone/OxyContin,
> > adderall, and fentanyl are all Schedule II, that is, are considered less
> dangerous drugs than marijuana.
> > Here is the DEA page:
> > http://www.justice.gov/dea/druginfo/ds.shtml
> >
> > (2) Back when I was in graduate school at Stony Brook, the famed
> > psychiatrist Max Fink (at SB's Med School's Psychiatry Dept) gave a
> > colloquium in the psychology department on the effect of marijuana on
> > cognitive processes (I forget what specifically he had done but a
> > Google Scholar search for "Max Fink" and marijuana gets a lot of hits
> > from the 1960s and 1970s.  I spoke to Fink after his presentation and
> > asked him if he had considered studying the effects of marijuana use
> > on priming effects on the lexical decision task (Roger Schvaneveldt
> > who was one of the original researchers on this topic was still at Stony
> Brook at this time).
> > Fink said it would be an interesting thing to do but it was a great
> > big pain in the butt getting funding for any research involving
> > marijuana and if you did get funding, there were all sorts of
> > regulations that one had to follow that really discouraged people from
> > using it in research.  He said the really foolish and scary thing was
> that there was!
> >  research using new drugs that was far easier to get permission to do
> > and with far less oversight and regulations but the drugs could be far
> > more dangerous than marijuana (how dangerous was unknown but if one
> > checks the side effects/adverse effects of drugs in PDR or one's
> > favorite drug reference, one should not be surprised to see how often
> > death, stroke, cardiac arrest, etc., are listed as side effects).
> >
> > Others have pointed out that U.S. legal policies concerning drugs were
> > not rational, did not really rely upon scientific data, and which
> > drugs were considered "safe" and which were considered "dangerous"
> > often involved sociocultural and racial considerations.  Draw your own
> > conclusion about the race-drug connection.
> >
> > There is an entry on Fink on Wikipedia and it is mostly concerned with
> > his work with ECT/Electroshock which, as we all know, is far safer
> > than using marijuana. ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Fink
> >
> > For people considering a classroom exercise on the Pro's and Cons of
> > marijuana for medicinal purposes, see the following handout:
> > Http://sciencecases.lib.buffalo.edu/cs/files/marijuana_notes.pdf
> >
> > The U.S. can benefit from a more rational drug policy and legislation.
> > That it took this long for Sanjay Gupta to realize this about
> > marijuana is disappointing because that means that there are probably
> > many more physicians who have some unsubstantiated beliefs about pot
> > but what else is new?
> >
> > -Mike Palij
> > New York University
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
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