Hi

I chose to focus on face in my search and that might have influenced my memory. 
 Also, might be coloured by seeing images like this

http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Leigh,%20Janet/Annex/Annex%20-%20Leigh,%20Janet%20(Psycho)_01.jpg

As well, the literature on emotional expressions in infants and reactions to 
same in adults might address the innateness of the reaction (ie. USC status?). 
I'm not familiar with work on early childhood and emotional reactions to music? 
 Then, of course, I assume there must have been a SCREAM!!!!!

Take care
Jim

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From: Tim Shearon [[email protected]]
Sent: February-09-14 1:05 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: RE: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

Jim
I do think we are all, perhaps, forgetting something about the scene. You 
reported that you remember the fear in the face and the blood circling. People 
who watch it without the music, or who are hearing impaired, report that the 
scene is not very scary. So I am wondering if you are remembering the face but 
not the thing that seems to have made the scene so effective. I'm just 
wondering if you do recall the score as well as the face and scene in general 
or if you sometimes recall the face alone? I honestly don't recall the scene as 
frightening unless I recall the score as well. :) (If someone else brought this 
up, apologies, I'm experiencing weird email sequencing today due to server 
resets - I've clearly gotten several emails out of order).
Tim

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Timothy O. Shearon, PhD
Professor, Department of Psychology
The College of Idaho
Caldwell, ID 83605
email: [email protected]

teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and 
systems

"You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker
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From: Jim Clark [[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:52 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

Hi

I too did some searching. Found a fair bit on one- trial avoidance learning, 
although little with humans. For me the main impression I have of the shower 
scene is the facial expression of terror, followed closely by the blood 
circling down the drain. If fear expression spontaneously elicits fear reaction 
(eg heightened startle in infants?) then it would seem to qualify as ucs. Also 
classical conditioning allows second-order conditioning even if fear response 
to expression is learned. Clearly quick learning of fear to facial expression 
would be of evolutionary value (ie don't need to have expression paired with 
personal pain). Finally i do not think contemporary psychologists would find CC 
and associative learning in conflict. Former refers to phenomenon and latter to 
underlying explanation.

Jim

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