Once upon a time hawkins1of3 shaped the electrons to say...
> using 2.20 GBs of space. A 1 hour show in best quality on Digital 
> cable is 1.50 GBs of space. A show I record on basic cable that is 
> only high quality is 1.50 GB of space as well.. 

Size will vary by show, even on the same source.  MPEG-2 encoding is
largely a differential system.  Key frames are encoded in full, but
then the following frames are only the differences from the key frame,
until the next key frame.  Shows that have a lot of motion, rapid
camera changes, even a lot of colors, create more differences frame to
frame, and hence more data to encode.  Shows that are full of static
shows, fewer colors (lots of dark scenes), or little motion compress
much more readily.

So you can't really compare two different shows.  The only really
accurate test would be to record the same episode of the same show -
one from the cable box, and one from the analog tuners.  You could do
this with a cable show that airs repeatedly by going into your
Channels list and forcing a channel to the box and then the internal
tuner, respectively.

That will give you an apples to apples comparison.

> So I guess there are multiple questions I have.. First would be 
> whether anyone knows why it uses less space, and second if it means it 
> is lower quality, and third is whether that means I can hold more 
> shows on my HD if I only recorded in digital since I am using less 
> space per show in digital?

1. Well, as I said above, encoding will vary show to show, so until
   you have an apples to apples comparison you can't be sure it is
   really saving anything significant.  However, presuming it *is*,
   there are a couple of possible reasons.  First, it is possible that
   your cable company does digital simulcast.  That's where an
   'analog' channels is also broadcast in the digital spectrum.
   Analog tuners (like the one in the TiVo) use the analog signal, but
   cable boxes (and CableCARD tuners, like the Series3) can use the
   digital signal.  The digital signal is generally cleaner than the
   analog signal.  So the cable box tunes a better signal with a
   clearer image, and, especially if you're using S-Video, feeds this
   to the TiVo to encode.  This image has less noise than the analog
   image.  The encoder doesn't know noise from real image data, so it
   has to encode everything.  Noise - fuzz, static, etc - creates
   differences frame to frame, which get encoded as image data.  Take
   the same image, one with noise and one without, and the one without
   needs less data to store the encoded version.  Another possibility
   is that the cable box is tuning the same analog source, but it has
   a better tuner and/or does some kind of noise filtering or image
   smoothing on the image before sending it to the TiVo - resulting in
   the same thing, a less noisy signal to encode.

   Note, if you're doing apples to oranges comparisons (two different
   programs recorded) and one is from the internal tuner (analog) and
   one is from a digital cable station (box) then the analog/digital
   difference (noise) is probably the answer - along with differences
   in the source.  But if you record an analog show via the cable box
   (which you have to force - by default the S2DT always uses the
   internal tuner for analog) it may not save any space over the
   internal tuner - and may even use more space.  That's why I say do
   an apples to apples comparison.

2. No, a smaller size doesn't necessarily mean lower quality.  Given
   *identical* image sources, with the same encoder, a smaller file
   size DOES indicate a more lossy encoding, which generally means a
   lower quality reproduction when decoded.  Hence Basic looks worse
   than Best.  However, given the same encoder, with the same settings
   (both recordings are Best), if one recording is smaller than the
   other, it is most likely a difference in the source material.  One
   program had more data to encode than the other.

3. Given apples to apples, if the cable box recordings take up less
   space than the internal recordings, then sure, using the box will
   allow you to store more.  But, odds are, the same analog content
   recorded via the internal tuner or the box will use the same amount
   of space.  And using the box loses the dual-tuner aspect.  Using
   the box also may lower the image quality - with the intenral tuner
   the channel is tuned and fed directly to the encoder.  With the box
   it is tuned, modulated for the appropriate output, then fed over an
   analog link to the TiVo, where it is captured, then fed to the
   encoder.

There are many variables.

-MZ
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