In essence you are saying that most people are not going to care about
the Y/N in the IANA table anyway. Somewhat similar to people not
understanding the difference between the different types of RFCs.

That sounds pragmatic.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/31/2016 06:52 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On 03/31/2016 11:20 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> just think about the mentioned JPAKE extension: what type of deployment
>> can you expect? It is something that Thread decided to use. Will Thread,
>> as a mesh networking technology, be successful and widely be deployed?
>> We don't know yet but if it becomes a technology of choice for use with
>> IEEE 802.15.4 then it will be fairly widely used in the IoT sector. I am
>> sure the authors of the Thread specifications (and the members of the
>> Thread consortium) expect their stuff to be widely used (in IoT -- not
>> on the Web).
> 
> Well, for JPAKE in particular, my thoughts focus on my perception that
> PAKE of any form is not really central to what TLS does.  Given that, I
> personally would not advocate for a 'Y' for it, even knowing that it
> might see wide use in IoT.
> 
>> Is this something that is good enough for this group? Web guys will
>> hardly care about it. A large part of the TLS group is focused on the
>> Web use only (at least that's my impression).
>>
>> From the descriptions provided by Sean I don't know whether this is
>> something that would be a "Y" blessing or not. This is what I call
>> "sounds nice but ...".
>>
> 
> Well, I would expect the authors to put the 'Y' in their IANA
> considerations text and see if anyone complained during the last calls. 
> I further expect that some of the web-centric folks on this list would
> complain and probably get the 'Y' removed, but I am not seeing why this
> is problematic.
> 
> -Ben
> 

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