On 7/17/2017, 12:45, "TLS on behalf of Roland Dobbins" <tls-boun...@ietf.org on 
behalf of rdobb...@arbor.net> wrote:

    On 17 Jul 2017, at 18:35, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
    
    
    > it could easily be enabled accidentally on the Internet, or coercively 
    > required
    > of certain entities, e.g., by national security letter, once 
    > enablement
    > is just a configuration setting (as opposed to writing code)
    
    Yes, concur.
    
    > So, in order to have something that is verifiably opt-in by both
    > parties, it seems like it would have to be a ClientHello/ServerHello
    > extension (included in the transcript for the generated traffic keys)
    > where both sides commit that they are willing to exfiltrate keys to a
    > given named entity(ies) (whether that's by raw public key, certificate
    > name, etc., is quite flexible).
    
    I agree that the extension approach is something which is worthy of 
    exploration.

Great. Then we all are in agreement.
 

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