* I am happy to set up an informal session where all can meet and talk quietly. Not everyone will be there on Sunday but maybe Monday breakfast or during a break? Just let me know if you are interested & we can make intros.
I won’t be there (health issues), but I’ve already turned down such private invites before. Standing up in front of a WG and talking about unpopular topics is hard. As Richard said, kudo’s to USBank (and a BCBS org) for doing so. But if you’re not willing to do the hard work, then you don’t get to have the IETF address your concerns. I remember saying before that I firmly believe that the main, and unstated, reason for wanting an IETF RFC on this is so that would-be customers can point to vendors and ask for a common solution at a lower price because the ability is now commoditized. With all due respect to the people involved, I believe that is still the case. I have heard concerns that it is necessary to have a “speedy” solution. Again, I strongly disagree with this. The standard organizations haven’t even made TLS 1.0 illegal yet, as I said last time. What makes you think that something is needed in under five years? I asked that question before, too.
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