One question that I have after reading it: I understand why one wants to 
implement this extension, but I don’t see how the two endpoints would arrive at 
that external PSK. 

Sadly - we're back to the 1980's in terms of key management.   The obvious 
answers are a) they meet to exchange keys, b) they're given a key through a 
KDC, c) they get them in the mail. (and I'm really not kidding about (c))

I don’t think I get it. There’s a ton of submissions at NIST PQC, most came 
with some formal proofs. I can’t believe none of them is good enough. Anything 
from that pool should be better than nothing…?

Also, if you do have a running KDC, why would you want/need TLS 1.3 ECDHE in 
addition to it? 

Would such a pre-shared key be long-term (i.e., good/used for many 
connections), or is it going to be a use-once thing?

 

 

From: TLS <tls-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Russ Housley 
<hous...@vigilsec.com>
Date: Monday, May 20, 2019 at 3:21 PM
To: Joe Salowey <j...@salowey.net>
Cc: IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk

 

TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-based Authentication with an External PSK 
ensures the US Government has a quantum-resistant option for TLS in the interim 
years until post-quantum algorithms emerge from the NIST process. For this 
reason, there is an intent to specify this extension in future procurements.

 

Russ

 




On May 15, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Joseph Salowey <j...@salowey.net> wrote:

 

The last call has come and gone without any comment.  Please indicate if you 
have reviewed the draft even if you do not have issues to raise so the chairs 
can see who has reviewed it.  Also indicate if you have any plans to implement 
the draft. 

 

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 8:51 PM Joseph Salowey <j...@salowey.net> wrote:

This is the working group last call for the "TLS 1.3 Extension for 
Certificate-based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key” draft 
available at 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk/. 
Please review the document and send your comments to the list by 2359 UTC on 23 
April 2019.

 

Thanks,
Chris, Joe, and Sean







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