On Fri, 13 Feb 2026, Simon Josefsson wrote:
[ AD clarification ]
Finally, I worry that due process is not followed since relevant
contributors are prohibited from participating, which subjugate others
to not feel at liberty of expressing similar opinions, resulting in a
non-transparent process that invite questions if this can be considered
a fair and open process.
No one has been prohibited from participation. The one individual you
are most likely referring to has their posts go through moderation first
to see if a bogus legal claim is present in the form of an incompatible
derivative clause. They are welcome to post substantive feedback without
such a bogus claim, similar to how everyone else follows the IETF
participation rules as references by our Note Well, and the moderators
will pass those messages to the list.
There was one individual who copied this behaviour of derivative clause,
and that was you Simon. You seem not to have been subjugated from giving
us your feedback and you simply (and correctly) stopped adding custom
derivative clauses that go against the IETF processes.
If anyone feels they cannot express their views on the public list,
the next best thing you can do is share your view with either the IESG
as a whole or with the the TLS WG Chairs and AD, provided of course,
that those off-list messages also do not contain derivative clauses.
Individuals that have reached out to chairs and AD that are uncomforable
speaking out, have so far all done so because they are afraid of the
hostile and repetitive interactions and accusations of being malicious
by said contributor. That is, I see the exact opposite of what you are
worried about.
Paul
/Simon
Joseph Salowey <[email protected]> writes:
This message starts the second Working Group Last Call for the pure ML-KEM
document (draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07).
The file can be retrieved from:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-mlkem/
The diff with the previous WGLC draft (-05) is here:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05&url2=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07&difftype=--html
<https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05&url2=draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-06&difftype=--html>
The main focus of this WGLC is to review new text providing more context
around the use of pure ML-KEM. For those who indicated they wanted this
text, please let us know if the new text satisfies you and if you support
publication. This working group last call will end on February 27, 2026.
Thank You.
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