On Thu, 2 Jul 2026, Simon Josefsson wrote:

Brainpool curves and ShangMi ciphers for TLS were published as
ISE submissions

Note that Brainpool curves had their own crypto war between proponents and
the same cryptographer in CFRG that got so toxic, most of the brainpool
proponents left IETF forever and might have even reduced participation
of a big OS vendor in general. I wouldn't mention it as a good example
of how IETF evaluates and publishes documents.

The ShangMi ciphers were not the result of a multi-year public
cryptographic evaluation program, and can hardly be equated to the efforts
of the NIST competition, so their path via the ISE makes total sense as
the circumstances are completely different from MLKEM.

Paul

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