On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Jon Nathan wrote:

> ultra-straightforward, but it's not too bad either.  This of course
> assumes that you're using tmda-sendmail.

It's not hard to set up in pine at all. You just set:

        customized-hdrs=From:,
        X-TMDA:

and away you go. The point was a little broader, though: why TMDA won't
bounce back to a mailer daemon.

Look, let's say I decide to opt you in to "Todd's Humor List," and then 
very considerately circular file all unsubscribe requests. Sure, you could 
DROP all messages, but that will never get you unsubscribed, or 
communicate the fact that you don't *want* my ever-so-funny jokes and 
aphorisms b'gosh!

The idea that bouncing messages to a list daemon--into which a lot of
coding time went into handling bounces in an intelligent way--is a Bad
Thing (tm) assumes a number of things not in evidence:

        1. You will never get unwanted mail from a list.
        2. You will never want to revoke your sign-up address.
        3. The list software is not broken, misused, abused, or 
        brain-dead.

I agree that POSTING to a list with a vacation or bounce message is very
bad form, but that's not really what we're talking about here. What we're
discussing is whether, if you decide you want to bounce certain types of
traffic, why you should need a delivery line to qmail's bouncesaying or a
procmail bounce script to do so.

-- 
"Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again."

                               - Unknown


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