This is a good approach. Care to share that e-mail message that you sent to your parent's friends?
On Friday 14 March 2003 11:24 am, Jeff Ross wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Gre7g Luterman wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:04:28 -0700, "Jason R. Mastaler" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You might say, "make this feature optional then if you don't like > > > it". No, because as this thread demonstrates, users are not always > > > aware of the potential consequences of something like this. IMO, it > > > offers marginal (if any) benefit, and will only serve to incite > > > further animosity towards TMDA. > > > > I'm not going to advocate this idea, but I do see one potential > > benefit to the suggestion that I feel compelled to mention... > > > > There's a lot of brain-dead users, novices, newbies, grandparents, and > > the like out there that just don't read. I wish it weren't the case, > > but it is. A ton of people who get an e-mail reply immediately after > > they send a letter just figure it is a bounce message. They shrug, > > delete it, and go on with their life. Or so it seems. > > > > This sort of thing would really piss me off, but I do take a little > > secret joy in knowing that TMDA accidentally shields me from having to > > read mail from anyone this stupid. > > > > *IF* we made it so that TMDA could send out reminders, these people > > *MIGHT* actually perk up out of their walking comas and realize that > > some interaction from them is required before the message they sent > > could be received... > > > > Please note that I do not have any statistical information on how many > > "real" people fail to authenticate. I have had at least two people > > send me ICQ messages about the "bounce" message they received when > > sending me e-mail. > > > > Gre7g. > > I gave my parents (both in their 70s) TMDA protected @openvistas.net > addresses because they were both getting upwards of 50 spams a day > through their ISP addresses. > > Together, we wrote an e-mail that explained in real basic terms what the > problem was (10x more spam than good e-mail) and what solution we were > implementing (TMDA), what to expect when the recipient sent an e-mail > to either my Mom or Dad and that the confirmation would HAVE to be > answered PERIOD before e-mail would be delivered. No exceptions. > > I didn't set up a pre-populated whitelist for my parents because I wanted > to spread the word about TMDA and I was curious what the reaction would be > amongst friends in their age group. Since I am monitoring the system > daily, I knew they would never lose any e-mail because if I saw a message > for either of them hang in the pending queue, I could take the appropriate > steps to handle it. > > That was 4 months ago. My Dad had to send a reminder message to one of > his friends that hadn't responded to the confirmation messsage. The > second reminder prompted his friend to confirm, and we were good to go. > > In fact, the biggest problem I've had as a SysAdmin in this situation is > when my parents give their new address out to sources like mailing lists > where there is no human involved to reply to the confirmation message. > When I see that crop up in the system logs, I just ask if they really want > this message from X, and if they do, I add the address to their whitelist > and manually release it from the pending queue. I'm more than willing to > do this with my parents, but I would not want to do it on a daily basis > for a gob of customers! > > Yes, I know I could have them use one of the specially formatted TMDA > addresses to handle this problem, but I'm holding out for the web based > interface to TMDA that Gre7g is building. When my clients, my parents or > not, can access their pending queue from a web browser, and they can > whitelist/blacklist/drop/accept an e-mail, I'll think we have arrived at > the Promised Land. > > Thanks for reading along, > > Jeff > > -- > Jeff Ross > Open Vistas Networking, Inc. > http://www.openvistas.net > > _____________________________________________ > tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users _____________________________________________ tmda-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users
