From: Robin Lynn Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Then he should use managed hosting for his server, such as rackspace and
> serverbeach, or get a satellite link. Stupidity on the part of his admin
> is not an excuse.
>
What a solution. That way his mail gets blocked because of all the RBLs that
include rackspace's IP block.

I wasn't aware that they've been blacklisted since I don't use managed hosting, but that's something he'd have to research before taking action, I'm sure there are plenty of reputeable hosting services available.


> >Actually, it does.  TMDA needs to become joe-job aware
>
> I'm sure your recommendations on how to accomplish this would be
> appreciated on the tmda-workers list, but honestly I'm not sure this is
> TMDA's job.
>
How about per-domain rate limiting.  At least that way, if 100 emails are
received before the first confirm request expires, only one confirm request
is sent, but all are held in the pending queue.

That would be EXTREMELY environmentally dependent, and I'm pretty sure you could do that now using your MDA. Maildrop would probably handle that quite nicely.


> I totally agree with that, no system is perfect, which is why I use
> rblsmtpd + spamassassin(with bayes and vipul) + tmda for spam while using a
> variety of other products for problems like email to invalid addresses,
> executeable attachments, etc.


On one side, there are the fanatics that inhabit spam-l and nanae, who
consider any unsolicited mail to be spam,

I don't go that far, the main reason I don't have a whitelist only account is the fact that I often get legitimate mail from people I've never corresponded with before.


and here I am surprised to find
people say, "as long as we don't get any spam, we don't care if we send
confirmation requests to people who never mailed us to begin with."

I care and would heartily support any reasonable system that lessened or prevented that, however, if the only other choice is not using C/R then let the collateral damage flow.


Chris Berry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Systems Administrator
JM Associates

"You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else." -- Tyler Durden

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