Jason R. Mastaler wrote:

> "Jesse D. Guardiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> How could it be implemented in the MTA though?
> 
> Ignorant of exactly how Postfix accomplishes this, I'd imagine it
> would go something like this:
> 
> You receive a spam message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.  Before accepting
> that message, your Postfix queries hotmail.com's SMTP server to see if
> `bogus' is an invalid address (i.e, if mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would
> bounce).  If so, it rejects the message, otherwise it allows the
> message to be delivered to you.
> 
> In essence, only messages which can be replied to will be allowed
> through, which makes a lot of sense to me.  This would significantly
> cut down on the amount of spam TMDA would have to process, and also
> the number of returned confirmation requests.
> 
> Does this make sense?

Sure. But qmail doesn't work that way, does it? You can't reverse SMTP
confirm an email address on a qmail server, can you? 

I don't think the reverse verification process would ever work against
a qmail MTA since the bounce doesn't happen at the SMTP conversation
level. (Or does it? Maybe I'm confused?)


> 
>> I still think it would be desirable to attempt to determine whether
>> a bounce is an auto-responder or a bounce at the TMDA level.
> 
> I disagree, since as I explained, this is only reliably done at the
> MTA level.  You'll inevitably lose legitimate mail if you attempt
> otherwise.  Not only that, but it's more efficiently done at the MTA
> level as well since the verification process would be much less
> expensive there.

I think the expense is arguable. But you're probably right since TMDA
is written in Python and the MTA is written in C.

Let's talk hypothetically here: If I implement some Python code in a
professional manner that effectively distinguishes between autoresponders
and bounces, but is a totally optional feature, would you include it?

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