On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:50:49AM -0600, Tim Legant wrote:
> Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > To make this possible, I suggest that confirmation request messages are
> > created with a special Message-ID.  The Message-ID of the request
> > message is created from the Message-ID of the message that causes the
> > confirmation request, by prepending ``confirm-'', and appending the
> > local host part[0].

> Maybe I'm missing something, but from what you describe, it sounds
> like once TMDA implements this, Joe SpamKing can install qconfirm and
> bypass every single TMDA installation.  I'm not sure that I can see
> why this is desirable....

Hmm, they don't need qconfirm to do this.  They could install some
simple auto-responder right now, but it costs them lots of resources,
and makes it easier to identify them.

> Right now, TMDA uses an empty envelope sender (standard bounce sender)
> and a Reply-To with the correct address to reply to for confirmation.
> This prevents most auto-responders from responding.  We've discussed
> the possibility of making this more restrictive should spammers begin
> auto-responding to the Reply-To, but never less!

This is fine; all I'm suggesting is that TMDA creates a special
Message-ID for delivery confirmation request messages.  I don't think it
does any harm, but helps the sender to validate the request.

Thanks, Gerrit.
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