I also have "idiopathic" TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of
which the doctors are idiots.

From:  lynne myers <[email protected]>
Date:  Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
To:  tmic <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
Resent-From:  <[email protected]>
Resent-Date:  Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:03:41 -0700

> I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least
> it is miserable.  But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I
> do not get any vaccines.  My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given
> was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks
> that could cause my immune system to go into "overdrive" again.
> Lynne 
> 
> --- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: john snodgrass <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
>> To: "PAMELA S" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]>, "TMC Group" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM
>> 
>> I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to have
>> shingles!!    
>> 
>> 
>> From: PAMELA S <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]; TMC Group <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM
>> Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
>> 
>> You know...I'm not going to get this shot.  But, shingles is what led to my
>> mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure.
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine
>> 
>> Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony
>> Komaroff. 
>> www.ask doctor k.com <http://k.com>   Sunday had a column titled "shingles
>> vaccine is a good idea for adults over 60".  A healthy 65 year old woman
>> asked - what is shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine.  The doctor
>> explained shingles and the vaccine.  Here is a portion of the article.
>> 
>> "Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles.  But
>> it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more.  And it does an even
>> better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia.
>> 
>> I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles.
>> That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form
>> of the virus.  And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or
>> chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine.
>> 
>> You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though
>> minimal, outweigh its benefits.  And if we were only talking about shingles,
>> you might be right.  It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles
>> just fine.
>> 
>> Postherpetic neuralgia is another story.  It can last for months, even years,
>> and be debilitating.  The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening
>> by two thirds.  And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the
>> vaccine.  I've voted with my feet.  I got the vaccine, because I've seen too
>> many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia.  Chronic pain can
>> disrupt a person's life"
>> 
>> (end of article)
>> 
>> Jim,
>> I think this is a question for a neurologist.  Unfortunately, I haven't seen
>> mine in three years so I cannot ask for you.  I think it would be good of all
>> our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no
>> for the vaccine and post the results for us.
>> 
>> -------------
>> 
>> Regarding the flu shot:
>> 
>> I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic -
>> undetermined cause.  I was also asked dozens of times during my
>> hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all
>> medical personal thought the shot causes TM.  Not so.  Medical personnel
>> asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause
>> various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient.
>> The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his
>> first observation of me.  I saw him for five years post TM and learned that
>> he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually.
>> I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot.  He
>> said, "Do you?"  I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because
>> he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his patients.
>> That was the best answer I've received yet.  I am not getting the flu shot.
>> 
>> -------
>> Patti - Michigan
>>        
>> 
>> 


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