what got my goat is that if i had filled out an accident report after being in the cab of the truck with the sick guy comp would have covered me during that first month and beyond but who ever thinks of these things!
Wells Fargo took care of the compensation where I worked and they told me i could have gotten it from a bug bite. I should have gotten a lawyer but in our shape especially in the first months who is able mentally to fight bureaucratic systems. idiopathic = scape goat ________________________________ From: Dalton Garis <[email protected]> To: lynne myers <[email protected]>; tmic <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine I also have "idiopathic" TM, which means, I suppose, that it I a pathogen of which the doctors are idiots. From: lynne myers <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT) To: tmic <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine Resent-From: <[email protected]> Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:03:41 -0700 I have gotten shingles three times in the last few years, and to say the least it is miserable. But on the recommendation of many doctors over the years I do not get any vaccines. My TM was also idiopathic and the reason I was given was because they do not know what caused my TM I should not take any risks that could cause my immune system to go into "overdrive" again. >Lynne > >--- On Thu, 10/20/11, john snodgrass <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>From: john snodgrass <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [TMIC] shingles vaccine >>To: "PAMELA S" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" >><[email protected]>, "TMC Group" <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, October 20, 2011, 6:14 AM >> >> >>I have a weak mind, I hope all this information doesnt cause me to >>have shingles!! >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: PAMELA S <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected]; TMC Group <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:37 AM >>Subject: RE: [TMIC] shingles vaccine >> >> >>You know...I'm not going to get this shot. But, shingles is what led to my >>mothers cardiomyapathy and congestive heart failure. >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:35:34 -0400 >>From: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [TMIC] shingles vaccine >> >> >>Our local newspaper has a medical column in the Sunday edition by Dr. Anthony >>Komaroff. >>www.ask doctor k.com Sunday had a column titled "shingles vaccine is a good >>idea for adults over 60". A healthy 65 year old woman asked - what is >>shingles and should I get the shingles vaccine. The doctor explained >>shingles and the vaccine. Here is a portion of the article. >> >>"Getting the vaccine does not gurantee that you will noy get shingles. But >>it does reduce your chances by 50 percent or more. And it does an even >>better job of reducing your risk of postherpetic neuralgia. >> >>I've had patients worry that the vaccine itself could give them shingles. >>That's because the shingles vaccine is made with a weakened - not dead - form >>of the virus. And a tiny percentage of people do get either a shingles or >>chicken pox - like rash within a month or so of getting the vaccine. >> >>You may wonder if the risks associated with the shingles vaccine, though >>minimal, outweigh its benefits. And if we were only talking about shingles, >>you might be right. It's not pleasant, but most people get through shingles >>just fine. >> >>Postherpetic neuralgia is another story. It can last for months, even years, >>and be debilitating. The shingles vaccine can cut the risk of that happening >>by two thirds. And I'd say that tips the balance in favor getting the >>vaccine. I've voted with my feet. I got the vaccine, because I've seen too >>many of my patients suffer from postherpetic neuralgia. Chronic pain can >>disrupt a person's life" >> >>(end of article) >> >>Jim, >>I think this is a question for a neurologist. Unfortunately, I haven't seen >>mine in three years so I cannot ask for you. I think it would be good of all >>our Tmers who are seeing a neuro to call and ask if the neuro votes yes or no >>for the vaccine and post the results for us. >> >>------------- >> >>Regarding the flu shot: >> >>I did not have a flu shot proir to my TM that was later lableled idiopathic - >>undetermined cause. I was also asked dozens of times during my >>hospitalization and rehab if I had had the flu shot thus determining that all >>medical personal thought the shot causes TM. Not so. Medical personnel >>asked if we had had the flu shot because they know the flu shot can cause >>various reactions and it is one of the many questions they ask a patient. >>The neuro who diagnosed me with TM asked if I had the flu shot during his >>first observation of me. I saw him for five years post TM and learned that >>he, his wife, and children received the flu shot annually. >>I asked my PCP in September why he didn't ask me if I wanted a flu shot. He >>said, "Do you?" I questioned if he takes one and he said he did not because >>he is not prone to getting the flu and he will not push them on his >>patients. That was the best answer I've received yet. I am not getting the >>flu shot. >> >>------- >>Patti - Michigan >> >>
