Yes, I'm sure. It is possible because krenew is the parent of the
"screen -Dm", so it can change its environment before forking.

$ echo $KRB5CCNAME
FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_11543_McyAWZ
$ krenew -- bash
$ echo $KRB5CCNAME
/tmp/krb5cc_11543_j2DI5W

Best,
 Mika

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 18:19, Nicholas Marriott
<nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:56:36PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
>> Hi Nicholas,
>>
>> A few reasons:
>> - Cloning the credentials cache is important when you use ssh, because
>> ssh will delete the original credentials cache on logout. Cloning the
>> credentials cache is only possible when krenew is given a command to
>> execute.
>> - Because of the cloning krenew needs to change the environment
>> variable pointing the the credentials cache.
>
> are you sure it changes the environment variable? that is not normally
> possible, it doesn't just renew what is already in there?
>
>> - When running krenew with screen -Dm, the cloned tickets are removed
>> when they're no longer needed. If you run krenew separately, you will
>> have to kill it manually.
>>
>> Best,
>>  Mika
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 16:38, Nicholas Marriott
>> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > hi
>> >
>> > why not just run krenew separately from tmux?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 03:59:20PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> in environments with Kerberos and especially NFS with Kerberos, it is
>> >> important to keep the Kerberos credentials valid by renewing them at
>> >> the proper time. Doubly so with screen or tmux sessions since they
>> >> typically run for a longer time.
>> >>
>> >> There is the tool krenew which does this automatically. What it does
>> >> is it clones the credentials cache, updates the appropriate
>> >> environment variable, then starts the program and *while the program
>> >> is running*, renews the credentials at the proper time. If the program
>> >> exits, krenew exits as well, deleting the cloned credentials cache.
>> >>
>> >> It is possible to use screen together with krenew, by starting a
>> >> screen session like this:
>> >> krenew -b -- screen -D -m
>> >>
>> >> This starts a detached screen session but does not fork, so that
>> >> krenew works properly.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't found a way to achieve this behavior with tmux. Is it
>> >> currently possible? If so, how? If not, do you think it would be
>> >> worthwhile to add an option to make it possible? Or do you have any
>> >> other suggestions how to deal with this issue?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance!
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> ??Mika
>> >>
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