If it changes the environment before forking, tmux should pick it up as
well.

You'll need to do something different to monitor for tmux exiting and
make krenew exit.


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:24:48PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
> Yes, I'm sure. It is possible because krenew is the parent of the
> "screen -Dm", so it can change its environment before forking.
> 
> $ echo $KRB5CCNAME
> FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_11543_McyAWZ
> $ krenew -- bash
> $ echo $KRB5CCNAME
> /tmp/krb5cc_11543_j2DI5W
> 
> Best,
>  Mika
> 
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 18:19, Nicholas Marriott
> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:56:36PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
> >> Hi Nicholas,
> >>
> >> A few reasons:
> >> - Cloning the credentials cache is important when you use ssh, because
> >> ssh will delete the original credentials cache on logout. Cloning the
> >> credentials cache is only possible when krenew is given a command to
> >> execute.
> >> - Because of the cloning krenew needs to change the environment
> >> variable pointing the the credentials cache.
> >
> > are you sure it changes the environment variable? that is not normally
> > possible, it doesn't just renew what is already in there?
> >
> >> - When running krenew with screen -Dm, the cloned tickets are removed
> >> when they're no longer needed. If you run krenew separately, you will
> >> have to kill it manually.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> ??Mika
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 16:38, Nicholas Marriott
> >> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > hi
> >> >
> >> > why not just run krenew separately from tmux?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 03:59:20PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> in environments with Kerberos and especially NFS with Kerberos, it is
> >> >> important to keep the Kerberos credentials valid by renewing them at
> >> >> the proper time. Doubly so with screen or tmux sessions since they
> >> >> typically run for a longer time.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is the tool krenew which does this automatically. What it does
> >> >> is it clones the credentials cache, updates the appropriate
> >> >> environment variable, then starts the program and *while the program
> >> >> is running*, renews the credentials at the proper time. If the program
> >> >> exits, krenew exits as well, deleting the cloned credentials cache.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is possible to use screen together with krenew, by starting a
> >> >> screen session like this:
> >> >> krenew -b -- screen -D -m
> >> >>
> >> >> This starts a detached screen session but does not fork, so that
> >> >> krenew works properly.
> >> >>
> >> >> I haven't found a way to achieve this behavior with tmux. Is it
> >> >> currently possible? If so, how? If not, do you think it would be
> >> >> worthwhile to add an option to make it possible? Or do you have any
> >> >> other suggestions how to deal with this issue?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance!
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> ??Mika
> >> >>
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