Yes, but this cloning the credentials cache and changing the
environment works only when giving a command to execute. When I give
"tmux new -d" as the command, krenew will immediately exit and remove
the cloned credentials cache, because tmux forks and exits. So this is
not a real solution.

I guess I could come up with a script that calls tmux new -d and then
check whether the session still exists and if not, exit.

Using this script as the command for krenew should work. It's a little
bit ugly though. I'll give it a try tomorrow and report back, whether
it's a viable workaround.

Best,
 Mika

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 18:30, Nicholas Marriott
<nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If it changes the environment before forking, tmux should pick it up as
> well.
>
> You'll need to do something different to monitor for tmux exiting and
> make krenew exit.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:24:48PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
>> Yes, I'm sure. It is possible because krenew is the parent of the
>> "screen -Dm", so it can change its environment before forking.
>>
>> $ echo $KRB5CCNAME
>> FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_11543_McyAWZ
>> $ krenew -- bash
>> $ echo $KRB5CCNAME
>> /tmp/krb5cc_11543_j2DI5W
>>
>> Best,
>>  Mika
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 18:19, Nicholas Marriott
>> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:56:36PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
>> >> Hi Nicholas,
>> >>
>> >> A few reasons:
>> >> - Cloning the credentials cache is important when you use ssh, because
>> >> ssh will delete the original credentials cache on logout. Cloning the
>> >> credentials cache is only possible when krenew is given a command to
>> >> execute.
>> >> - Because of the cloning krenew needs to change the environment
>> >> variable pointing the the credentials cache.
>> >
>> > are you sure it changes the environment variable? that is not normally
>> > possible, it doesn't just renew what is already in there?
>> >
>> >> - When running krenew with screen -Dm, the cloned tickets are removed
>> >> when they're no longer needed. If you run krenew separately, you will
>> >> have to kill it manually.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> ??Mika
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 16:38, Nicholas Marriott
>> >> <nicholas.marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > hi
>> >> >
>> >> > why not just run krenew separately from tmux?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 03:59:20PM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> in environments with Kerberos and especially NFS with Kerberos, it is
>> >> >> important to keep the Kerberos credentials valid by renewing them at
>> >> >> the proper time. Doubly so with screen or tmux sessions since they
>> >> >> typically run for a longer time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is the tool krenew which does this automatically. What it does
>> >> >> is it clones the credentials cache, updates the appropriate
>> >> >> environment variable, then starts the program and *while the program
>> >> >> is running*, renews the credentials at the proper time. If the program
>> >> >> exits, krenew exits as well, deleting the cloned credentials cache.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is possible to use screen together with krenew, by starting a
>> >> >> screen session like this:
>> >> >> krenew -b -- screen -D -m
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This starts a detached screen session but does not fork, so that
>> >> >> krenew works properly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I haven't found a way to achieve this behavior with tmux. Is it
>> >> >> currently possible? If so, how? If not, do you think it would be
>> >> >> worthwhile to add an option to make it possible? Or do you have any
>> >> >> other suggestions how to deal with this issue?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> ??Mika
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