Inputs: Actually Dr. Sundar Raj, Dr. Syam Sundar and Dr. Haritha are there in April's MAD meeting and they have seen the medicines and also questioned Raju reg. the problem, operation and the present health. What they opined is all the medicines are to strengthen his immune system and see to that the kidney is adjusted in his body. (As I understood. May be I misquote too). But the important point here is Ayurveda can help develop the immune system so there would not be any necessity for all those medicines and also they can try to get sample medicines or something of that sort without much financial burden.
Note: He said he will accompany Raju to Mahavir Hospital and then talk with the concerned doctors and only with their permission they can take the Ayurvedic medicines too. Anyways after April, Raju hasn't come for Checkup. And Dr. Sundar Raj is in Tirupati to attend M.Sc. Psychology classes and he has very tight schedule till July I suppose. Even Dr. Syam Sundar or Dr. Harita or Dr. Gayatri can come and talk. Let us wait and see. As Dr. Viplove stays in Tirupati he can't help though he is very much willing to. He can only give his suggestion if he has the reports and other details with him. Let us wait and see. If Raju comes here, we can work on the next action. Thank you. --- In [email protected], "divyapryga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ratan and others... > > In all this process of bringing Raju down to Ratan's hospital and > having him checked and etc...we MUST make sure we are not worsening > raju's present situation. ASAP would be the best. And Ratan...how much > approximately would be the cost of these exams at ur hospital? Does > the Hospital support social causes and discount the bills? Can u talk > on our behalf since no harm trying?? > > The one reason I said we cannot say NO to this person is....because we > spent a lott already towards saving his life..and spent less or > more...he loosing his life becos we said NO too is something I would > really get hard to digest. > > Sooner or later if he doesnot take medicines in time...his kidney is gng to be rejected by the body..and give up totally. I spoke to a doctor buddy of mine...and he says not taking medicines in time gives scope for infections in the body..and in the process lumps can develop...though it can only be determined by the nature of lumps. > > -Divya > > **********************************************************************--- > In [email protected], "Ratan" <ratanks@> wrote: > > > > Hold On! > > You guys have done a lot for this particular case. I do agree with > Prasanthi/Divya to a major extent (not fully). The point of > disagreement is saying a NO. I feel we can say a NO though we may not > mean it. Anyway, Prasanthi has already mentioned to him that there is > no MAD meeting now and hence she is not in a positon to do much right > at this point. > > Now let's think medically. Raju has developed some throat lumps and > needs medication which will cost about Rs.12000. Man, this is not a > small amount and to write the prescription of such a value, the > physician must have seen some real cause. So what I propose is, call > Raju to Hyderabad. I want to get him checked by a cardiologist and one > nephrologist here. (For the information of many of our members, I work > in a reasonably good hospital in Hyderabad and my hospital has got > vast experience in transplants. The only sad part is this is corporate > hospital and the cost of treatment is a little on the higher side). I > have a close friend working here as a cardiologist and one good > nephrologist. So I want this guy to be seen by these 2 doctors, take > their opinion. Then some treatment will come into picture. At that > time I will try to generate some physician's sample drugs for Raju or > at worst case, if we have to buy it, we will do so, but from a dealer > and not a retailer because it will be less expensive. And as Divya > mentioned, we need not give them the medicines in bulk. Instead we can > buy for a week/fortnight depending on the cost of the drugs. > > About the job for his father: What is his qualification? What sort > of job he can do? I will try to get him something in this hospital in > case he is suitable. He just can't keep on saying that there is no > work or something. > > And forget about his promise to refund the money in two instalments. > Think practically. Assume he won't refund the money. If he at all > refunds something, its our good luck. But I don't think so. > > And this is also not a very bad idea to run a check on his > dossier/profile for criminal records. If we put him into a job and > something happens willfully negetive,then we will lose our ground in > future while seeking favour for such cases. > > So action plan: Please let Raju come for a check up and atleast let > his father provide us the prescription/whatever paper he has related > to this case till date. We will tell that we wnt to arrange medicines > from dealer at cheaper rate, so we need the papers as a dealer won't > sell anything directly to us without authentic prescription. > > Regards > > Ratan Kumar Singh > > +91-9848995091 > > Global Hospitals, Lakdi-Ka-Pool, > > Hyderabad - 500 004 > > A.P. India > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 12 May 2006 divyapryga wrote : > > >Hey Prasanthi.. > > > > > >Hmm.....OK!! My way of doing things: > > > > > >We cannot say NO...like I always said...it wont make sense letting his > > >life go down the drain now. So..not paying is out of the qn. > > > > > >First....find out if he is speaking the truth. Whichever doctor it is > > >who is dealing with Raju...get his no..call him and ask him every > > >thing about the scenario. How long Raju has to be on these > > >medications..the names again and so on. > > > > > >DONOT GIVE CASH!! Buy the medications from a closeby medical store. > > >Also donot give the medications in bulk. Medicines can always be sold > > >back to any other store for money..if not its full price. Just being > > >cautious here...and not attempting to throw stones at a fathers' > > >feeling towards his child or so. > > > > > >Mr. Rajus' dad has to really work !!! HIGH TIME. Is there any work > > >that we could make him do in Telugupeople.com Office?? PLEASE DONOT BE > > >SUPER LENIENT WITH THIS MAN. Given all the benefit of his words..he > > >still needs to get back to work. We must find him a job. If he works > > >directly under us...we can watch him too. Or...is there any shop or > > >business of anykind...where upon our request and the fact that it is > > >against a social cause...someone or some organisation can give this > > >guy some job?? We have to explore all the possibilities. I really > > >wouldnt' give him a option that he lives sumwhr els and cannot live in > > >hyd to work. This cannot go on long as it is going on now. He asks for > > >money saying some reason and we keep giving it I mean. May be u can > > >first try talking to all the business in the same complex where tp.com > > >office is...or its neighbouring places. Please donot think of > > >investing some more money and help him open a business. I have a gutt > > >feeling it wont' work. I donot like the statement that there is no > > >work. There is always work and need for labour somewhere. One has to > > >go try find it. At that one place where he worked initially there is > > >now work doesnt mean there isnt' any anywhr else. I donot care if ppl > > >are phd's or university rankers in their house. Of what good is one's > > >education if it cannot come of use in times of grave need???? > > > > > >Talk to Raju once if possible. If its stright face to face..even > > >better..since we can read the face aswell when he answers. I want to > > >know if he thinks his family sincerely tries to work and earn some > > >money...specially knowing that Raju can loose his life any given day > > >if there is no help from people like us supporting his medications and > > >so on. Is every penny we give used exactly what we are giving it for?? > > >What according to him are his familys' future plans on earning??? What > > >will they do if we say NO someday and he is in the same health > > >situation as today??? > > > > > >Time and on I have been expressing my thought directly and indirectly > > >that I dislike this man so very much from my heart. 'There is no work' > > >is such a vague statement....and he can afford to get away with it > > >becos of US...since he knows we wont' say NO. He needs to be taught > > >that help is not something u take for granted and he needs to learn to > > >respect the favour in a better manner. I so damn wish I could wash > > >this guys' brain once! > > > > > >Also...one question.(To those of you who jump to conclusions with > > >emotional mind....hold on and try to see my view if possible). Is > > >there a way to find out if this man has any police record of some > > >kind??? We need to know this before we try to put him to work with us > > >or somewhere else..since we have to know what we are getting into. > > >Also perhaps it can be a cause of him loosing his job or not getting > > >any other job anywhere else...if he is trying like he says. If > > >not...then he is lying big time! > > > > > >So much for now. WE HAVE TO GIVE THE MONEY. Really no option. But buy > > >the medications and make him come once a week if he has to...so that > > >we reduce the chance of giving him the medicines in bulk and he > > >selling it. > > > > > >Also..when u do end up talking to the doctor...can u ask him...that > > >how many days of no medication forms these lumps in the throat....and > > >if it is even related to his kidney transplantion??? Perhaps our > > >inhouse doctor Mr.Sundar can throw some more light rightaway...and so > > >can Viplove. We should ofcourse talk to Rajus' doctor and know his > > >thoughts too. > > > > > >Also...Prasanthi...check how many days of medications did our last 6k > > >plus donation buy him. We will know if it was appropriately used > > >rightaway. If u donot know the price of the medications you can always > > >find out from a store..or when u buy it now u can compare n figure out. > > > > > >All for now from my end. > > > > > >Btw..this Uncle of Raju..whr does he stay??? If this Raju's father is > > >put into work here..he can always be given a roof from this guy right? > > >Specially knowing all we are trying to do. That ways we donot leave an > > >excuse from Rajus' dad that his house if far and he cannot travel for > > >work everyday or he cannot afford to live here in the city. This guy > > >needs to be cornered out form excuses and MADE TO WORK !! > > > > > >-Divs > > > > > >********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Lakshmi Prasanthi > > >Uppalapati" <prasanthi.uppalapati@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > > > Good Morning/Evening. > > > > > > > > This is with respect to Raju's case. Yesterday night Raju's father > > >called me > > > > saying that he needs Rs. 12k for medicines and from one week they > > >are not > > > > having medicines at all and Raju has grown lumps on this throat > (meda > > > > vaachimdi). > > > > > > > > I asked him that what about his job and did he joined as he > promised in > > > > April's MAD meeting. He is saying that work is not there so he > > >couldn't go. > > > > > > > > I told him that I cannot assure him and as there is no MAD meeting > > >in Hyd, I > > > > can't promise him anything. I also told him that he requested me Rs. > > >6400 > > > > saying that it is the last time that he is asking us. > > > > > > > > He replied me saying that 'Yes. I will pay back in two installments > > >as I am > > > > expecting my PF loan grant'. > > > > > > > > I am not sure with this case. This time I am not happy with the > > > > conversation. But still I am feeling that can we help them and is it > > >really > > > > a help? How far can we take the responsibility of a case and feel > > >that we > > > > own the case? > > > > > > > > I am in doldrums. I couldn't decide. As per his words, he will > repay the > > > > amount back in two installments if we give money to him. Can we > > >trust him? > > > > > > > > I await eagerly for your reply. Raju is supposed to come today to > > >Hyderabad > > > > for the monthly checkup. I don't know if he came or not. > > > > -- > > > > with regards, > > > > PRASANTHI. > > > > ---- > > > > When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping > you to > > > > achieve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
