Krishna garu, Kiran garu, I will reply to you directly later. For now, the point is, Indian men seem to be straying more than we let ourselves believe as a society. Let us be more vigilant about their behavior too.
lalitha. --- Krishna Konakanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At one point in time I dont think we had AIDS in > India, which was because > of the moral and ethical living of all Indians > irrespective of whether they > were men or women. It all started with our unwanted > and uncontrolled > openness to western culture on the name of > civilization. If we really apply > logic impartially we need not blame either men or > women in particular. I > feel we should not judge one another for the sake of > it. > > What we watch outside forms what we think inside. > Today's schooling does > not teach morality / dharma, it only teaches methods > of filling the belly, > unfortunately! It teaches competetion rather than > co-ordination for survival > and encourages humans believe in sensuous pleasures > which could be greatest > enemies to humankind. All parents have to > reestablish the correct behavior > in the coming generations to safeguard humanity on > earth...and that should > start with current generation, which is us! > > The ancient shastras preached about treating men and > women as symbols of > deities and provided us an ideal way of living which > we forgot. Men > are addressed as "Arya", meaning "Oh one who sees > God in all...". Women are > directly addressed as "Bhavathi / Sreemathi" meaning > "Mother Goddess", then > where is the possibility of sin?!!! (There could > still be instances rarely > though!!!) This way of thinking should start from > childhood, otherwise it is > difficult. > > I was reading some book of Ekkirala Bharadwaja > yesterday in which it was > quoted something like this, "we dont really require > some entity called God > except to keep us all on the right approach of > living. Spirituality or > devotion is not about any magic but about right > living and right experience > of life" - I liked it. > > Excuse me if all this sounded like an unwanted > preaching to some of > you...but that was one impulse of thought in me > after reading this mail > thread which I wanted to share with rest of you. ;-) > > Thanks, > Krishna. > > > On 2/9/07, Kiran Chakravarthula > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I apologize unconditionally, and sincerely, and > I feel ashamed, to be > > pointing towards women. What I intended is not a > matter of importance > > when it is conveyed wrongly or it can be > interpreted wrongly. > > > > Kiran/NaChaKi > > > > --- In > [email protected]<tomakeadifference%40yahoogroups.com>, > > Lalitha G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Kiran garu, > > > > > > I still say that that comment was unnecessary > and > > > beats the purpose. > > > > > > Bottomline - women, society, parents of boys > need to > > > know that reckless behavior of man wrecks > family. > > > Society needs to demand responsible behavior > from both > > > men and women. Women get plenty of moral > education. > > > Let men start getting some too. Let them not > point at > > > some exceptional cases of women and gain > sympathy. > > > > > > If there are exceptional cases of women going > the > > > wrong way, they suffer hell and do not even get > a > > > second chance. So, even considering such > exceptions is > > > not worthy. > > > > > > lalitha. > > > > > > --- NaChaKi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > << Please be more considerate to women. >> > > > > > > > > Lalitha gaarU, > > > > > > > > I'm no indifferent to women! I respect Woman > for > > > > what She is, and what Man can never be! > > > > > > > > Having said that, I agree with you completely > about > > > > woman being at the receiving end most of the > times. > > > > But, my comment was more on Sree Harinath's > opinion > > > > that AIDS-afflicted women and children may be > helped > > > > but men should not be. > > > > > > > > Anyway, since we all, including Sree Harinath > now, > > > > do agree that prejudice is not right, let's > drop > > > > this discussion here. If my comments sounded > like > > > > loose talk about women, I am the first one to > be > > > > sorry about it for women! > > > > > > > > NaChaKi > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: Lalitha G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > [email protected]<tomakeadifference%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2007 7:15:33 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [tomakeadifference] Feb 7th > Update > > > > > > > > Kiran garu, > > > > yes, we should all come out of prejudice when > > > > talking > > > > about AIDS affected. Made a good point. > > > > > > > > "but do you think women cannot get it due to > "wrong > > > > activities"? ? (Let's talk facts, and I wish > the > > > > women > > > > members can see I don't have a grudge against > > > > women!)" > > > > > > > > What I am going to say doesn't justify "not > helping" > > > > men, women or children. But the need to > educate goes > > > > far beyond comments like "women could have > been > > > > reckless too". > > > > > > > > It may be so. Technically, that's possible. > But, > > > > mostly women are at the receiving end due to > the > > > > reckless behaviour and stubbornness of the > man, > > > > mostly > > > > husband, in their lives. > > > > > > > > I was under some prejudices myself too. After > > > > reading > > > > and watching more and more AIDS awareness > articles > > > > and > > > > shows, I see that women are in most cases at > the > > > > recieving end. > > > > > > > > Let's focus on India. Women are either married > off > > > > at > > > > very early age (especially in lower classes) > or kept > > > > under watch and taught so many moral lessons. > Men, > > > > on > > > > the other hand have a lot of freedom. In lower > > > > classes, men get into work very early, go to > > > > different > > > > places, there is no education / awareness. The > > > > importance is not felt. They are men. They > cannot > > > > become pregnant. Men, I'm sorry to say, are > prone to > > > > and are not kept as seriously away from > reckless > > > > behabior as women. > > > > > > > > We need to educate parents of boys to keep > their > > > > sons > > > > under watch as they would a daughter by > tradition. > > > > We > > > > have to educate parents and women to know the > HIV > > > > status of man before they are married. 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