Christopher K. St. John wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>I can tell I spent
>>few months with almost daily runs in OptimizeIt and
>>several 'ab' per day.
>>
> 
> 
>  Hold on. It sounds like you think I'm saying you
> didn't do your homework. I'm not saying you don't
> know this stuff, I'm saying that there aren't pointers
> to this work in the proposal.
> 
>  What I'm definitely not doing it taking your word
> for it. I don't even take my own word for stuff
> like this, so it has nothing to do with you
> personally.
 >
>  ab really isn't sufficent for what I'm taking about,
> though. It produces extremely skewed results. It's
> something of a blunt instrument.

You never look at the absolute numbers. Sometimes, people publish 
benchmarks (like this Tomcat sucks article), and assume this will help 
me, when it actually really doesn't, since it doesn't tell me on what I 
should work.

What you do is:
- Run TC in optimizeit
- Use some load testing tools to generate some load, like ab (there's 
also this tool made by M$ ...)

Then look at the profile.

Then, when you're done removing the hotspots, you get get the "feel 
good" factor, and look at the absolute ab numbers, which don't mean 
anything in the real world.

So I don't have any interesting absoulte numbers to publish because:
- they don't really mean anything.
- ab runs bad on Windows.

I have some (old) results with the M$ tool.

(tested with 4.1 a long time ago; I have no idea if I did it right)

- static (the old index.html, I think)

* HTTP/1.1: 500 req/s 100% CPU
* Coyote HTTP/1.1: 575 req/s 85% CPU

- HelloWorldExampleServlet

* HTTP/1.1: 413 req/s
* Coyote HTTP/1.1: 702 req/s

>  How about this for a concrete suggestion: Add "come
> up with a set of benchmarks and performance goals" as
> part of the proposal. (And yes, I'm volunteering to
> help)

Remy


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