>Good... Prove it to me. Come up with a proposal of some 
>friggin' sort...
>FWIW even 4.2.x doesn't address any of my concerns, and it's 
>not even out
>working yet... Talking about 5.0 is a little bit "premature" maybe?
>
>But that's my vision... The vision of an old fart who has been 
>around for
>quite long and is more concerned with numbers than whether we 
>support JMX or
>not...

Ok, we'll see what we could add in proposal to make Papy Pier Happy :)

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