On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Glenn Nielsen wrote:

> I thought the ASF was about creating a community (meritocracy) where 
> proposals, ideas, directions, and code can be discussed openly and the 
> validity of them could be challenged.  So that only the best ideas rise 

That's exactly what we are trying to do. 

> I see the proposal for a major new revision of Tomcat as a watershed event.
> It should be a time for the tomcat community to do some introspection of 
> where Tomcat currently is and what direction it should go in the future.

Glenn, I agree 5.0 should be a major event for tomcat - and I understad
your concerns about time ( it seems Remy agrees with them as well ).

The important thing in the proposal is that 5.0 will be an evolution of 
the current code. That's the most fundamental decision. Do we want
 to start a new codebase for 5.0, or to improve and mature the current 
code ? 

I think we shouldn't even have a tomcat-5.0 repository for now - 
just to continue working on what we are working, like it would
be a 4.2 or 4.1.99. 

The changes for the new servlet API are hopefully small enough,
and can be implemented in a separate cvs or in a separte dir,
with some cond. compilation. 

I personally believe that from a code perspective, 5.0 shouldn't
take a lot of time. We just need to continue fixing bugs and
do the improvements the user ask for. 

Increasing the role for coyote and a buffer-friendly and 
simpler core would open up a number of improvements, and 
I think we can preserve most of the code ( including backward
compatibility for the API - which is very important for those
embeding tomcat )

But what's important is getting the community togheter. And
that should be the 'watershed' event for 5.0. And for that
 the required simple majority vote is not enough - we need
to address all itches that we can.

Costin





> The process of discussing this might be messy but hopefully in the end
> what will be left is a well thought out proposal that most everyone can
> agree with.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Glenn
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