"micael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What operating system do you prefer, Pier?
We use Solaris both for Intel and Sun platforms... First reason being is that we _know_ how that OS works, it's much more tuneable on live systems, and much easier to configure when you know what you're doing... Especially relating to Java, Solaris 8 was our platform of choice because of threading support. Linux threads behave like processes (you see them in "ps" for instance), that said it doesn't only have a "visual" disadvantage (that same output can be generated on Solaris with "ps -AfL"), but also a practical one... Limits and signals... First of all, threads-as-processes are vulnerable to signals, and therefore, given a bug in the VM (let's say a SEGV), what _can_ happen that only that process dies (instead of the whole JVM set of processes), I've seen that happening. Good point about that is that your Tomcat is going to be up, bad point about that is that it's going to really mess up the JVM internals (that's why Thread.kill() has been deprecated, and plus other random reasons). Short story, threads-as-processes are much weaker than threads-as-threads because of their behaviour towards the OS kernel... Second point about Solaris 8 is the _two_ different configurations of threads you can have... One is the default one, and works, but in some cases (fixed number of threads, usually pooled, yadayadayada) a nice thing such as "LWP" threads (used by pre-binding the /usr/lib/lwp/libthread.so in Java) can come _really_ handy and delivers a _lot_ more performances... (this helps a _lot_ also with Apache 2.0/worker). Third reason, limits... In case of highly loaded environments, the kernel will stop creating processes (and therefore threads under Linux) once the process limit is reached, threads-as-threads don't suffer from that because they are "nested" within their process scope, and the limit is _much_ higher. File descriptor limits, memory limits, swapping, and so on, come for free for us using Solaris, and it's _so_easy_ to tweak your network parameters on live systems by tweaking the kernel with NDD (file descriptors are in CLOSE_WAIT, no problem, set an NDD variable, and you're done)... Plus, what the heck, Solaris 8 minimal install is probably 20 packages and 100 Mb for both 32 and 64 bits, while if you install RedHat, you can never get below 400 Mb! :-) I love my disk space, and less code, less chances for a bug, right??? :-) It works for us, it has been working for ages, and we actually replaced all our old Linux/x86 installations with Solaris8/x86. That's production... For development, _of_course_ I use MacOS/X 10.2.2 which is by far the best desktop on the planet... I've had a short test with an X-Serve and load, performed allright (far better than a same-price Dell box), but it went nowhere because at the same time we "inherited" a lot more Sun Hardware for "free" (roughly! :-) so, we decided that we wanted to reuse all those nice UltraSparc machines! :-) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>