Sorry if I'm intruding here, I've been following the discussion and I have to say I agree with Costin...
What we have here is that due to a JDK14 bug that's preventing our application from working properly we have to stay with JDK131 for now until JDK142 is out. We're trying to move to a newer version of TC (406 or 4118?) from 401 which is what we've been using without any problem. The thing is that with TC406 or 4118, it seems that it takes a long time to shut down (around 30 - 40 secs), could be related to bug 3597, however TC401 is fine, so I think in a sense, TC has already become unfriendly with JDK131...to say the least... When we tried JDK141 + TC406/4118, it works just fine... Any comments would be greatly appreciated...:-) Jindong. -----Original Message----- From: Costin Manolache [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tomcat 5 target JDK1.4? V. Cekvenich wrote: > >> I'm very happy that Tomcat works well on 1.4, I can't however see any >> reason to "requiring" 1.4, what are the benefits? Should we artificially >> create obstacles for the sake of it? >> >> Martin > > > Would you be "more" happier if JDK 1.4 made tomcat faster and more > stable and have less jars, relative to other containers? > Nothing to lose people, and something to gain. > 1.3 has a bad GC for one. A lot to lose, little to gain. You can use JDK1.4 with tomcat5.0 ( or tomcat3.0 if you want ), and so get the stability and speed - without removing the choice to use JDK1.3 or open source VMs for other people. A lot of people preffer more jars ( they can choose to replace ) versus the bloated rt.jar. Jasper requires Xerces2.x.y - while JDK1.4 bundles crimson. Log4j is better for logging than what is bundled in 1.4. Do you see many programs that work only on windowsXP, but not on 2000 or 9x ? Are people writting many applications that work only on MacOS X 1.4, but not on MacOS X 1.3 ( I have no idea what's the real version number ) ? Most linux applications will work even with 0.99 kernel ( after a recompilation maybe ). What we lose is choice - and that's a _lot_. Choice to use an open source VM, choice on the OS/platforms we support ( think FreeBSD and Linux on Arm/Sparc/PPC ), etc. > I think TC4 = JDK1.3, but TC5 = JDK1.4. Let's close this discussion. This is a decision that tomcat committers can make. My vote will be -1. Costin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
