Thatīs right, but even using a GUI IDE like JBuilder or Netbeans this problem can occours, because in a low level these tools make a command like to compile, to build a webbapp or to create a jar file.
> ---------- > De: Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Responder: Tomcat Users List > Enviada: sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 15:18 > Para: Tomcat Users List > Assunto: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > > > Howdy, > > > And Yoav, you did say that in almost 10 years no one complains about > >it, but as i know there are many people facing this issue all over > internet > >also. My neibour here has a windows 2000, he will make some tests with > its > >command line. > > I misunderstood your problem when I said no one else has it. What you > describe is a common issue. It used to be more common before people used > Ant and IDEs, when they did more stuff on the command line. I just > haven't compiled anything in a DOS window for ages, so I forgot ;) > > Yoav Shapira > > > > >> ---------- > >> De: Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Responder: Tomcat Users List > >> Enviada: sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 14:41 > >> Para: Tomcat Users List > >> Assunto: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> > >> > >> Howdy, > >> I see -- thanks for the example. > >> > >> You do realize Ant adds a lot of these jars for you automatically to > the > >> classpath, right? You don't need to add anything in ANT_HOME/lib, as > >> that's automatically included. Furthermore, if you're using JDK 1.4 or > >> later, you can remove a bunch of other jars from the path as they're > >> included in the JDK, e.g. JAXP, Crimson, JDBC 2.0 extensions. Finally, > >> you have a number of duplicates, e.g. the XML APIs, repeated a number > of > >> times in the path. > >> > >> Yoav Shapira > >> Millennium ChemInformatics > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:35 PM > >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List' > >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> > > >> > This mainly it happen with ant, here a snapshot of it: > >> > > >> >D:\home\edson>set > >> >LOCALCLASSPATH=d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xmlta > >> >sk.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml- > >> >apis.jar;d:\usr\local\j > >> >akar > >> > >ta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant- > >> >1.5.4 > >> >\lib > >> >\optional.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant- > >> >1.5.4\lib\ant.jar;d:\arquiv~1\ > >> >j2sd > >> >k1.4.1_01\commapi\comm.jar;d:\usr\local\skinlf- > >> >1.2.4\lib\skinregion.jar;d:\u > >> >sr\l > >> >ocal\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinlf.jar;d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\xerces- > >> >1.2.2.jar > >> >;d:\ > >> >usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar;d:\usr\local\ecs- > >1.4.1\ecs > >> - > >> >1. > >> >4.1. > >> > >>jar;d:\usr\local\java_cup\java_cup.jar;d:\usr\local\hsqldb_v.1.61\lib\hs > q > >> ld > >> >b > >> >.jar > >> >;d:\usr\local\junit3.7\junit.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant- > >> >1.5.4\lib\x > >> >mlta > >> >sk.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml- > >> >apis.jar;d:\usr\local\j > >> >akar > >> > >ta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant- > >> >1.5.4 > >> >\lib > >> >\optional.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant- > >> >1.5.4\lib\ant.jar;d:\desenv\os > >> >ctrl > >> > >>_lib\classes;d:\desenv\osctrl\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\ifin > a > >> nc > >> >e > >> >\cla > >> > >>sses;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\intranet\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src > \ > >> se > >> >r > >> >vlet > >> > >>s\panfinance\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\base\classes;d:\desen > v > >> \p > >> >a > >> >nnet > >> >\java-lib\jasper-runtime.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-lib\jasper- > >> >compiler.jar;d > >> >:\de > >> >senv\pannet\java-lib\jdbc2_0-stdext.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\tinySQL.ja > >> >r;d: > >> >\desenv\pannet\java-lib\servlet.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\ojdbc14.jar;d: > >> >\des > >> >env\pannet\java-lib\shell_term.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\crimson.jar;d:\ > >> >dese > >> >nv\pannet\java-lib\jconcept.zip;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\com.zip;d:\desenv\ > >> >pann > >> >et\java-lib\acme.zip;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\xBaseJ.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\j > >> >ava- > >> >lib\oreilly.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >lib\mail.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib > >> >\jst > >> >yle.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-lib\jndi.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\jcServl > >> >et.j > >> >ar;d:\desenv\pannet\java- > >> >lib\activation.jar;d:\jbuilder4\lib\jaxp.jar;d:\arq > >> >uiv~ > >> >1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\lib\tools.jar;d:\arquiv~1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\lib\dt.jar;.;; > >> > > >> > I couldnīt take correctly antīs command line, but i think that it > >> >gives some idea. > >> > > >> >> ---------- > >> >> De: Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Responder: Tomcat Users List > >> >> Enviada: sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 14:07 > >> >> Para: Tomcat Users List > >> >> Assunto: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Howdy, > >> >> It's fascinating other people in the almost decade-long history of > the > >> >> language haven't had this problem. Don't you find that curious? ;) > >> Can > >> >> you post one such classpath example that's giving you problems? > >> >> > >> >> Yoav Shapira > >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:03 PM > >> >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List' > >> >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> > > >> >> > Exactly, thatīs it! Even using environment variable in a > MSDOS > >shell > >> >> >you can reach the line limit. > >> >> > > >> >> >> ---------- > >> >> >> De: Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> Responder: Tomcat Users List > >> >> >> Enviada: sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 13:57 > >> >> >> Para: Tomcat Users List > >> >> >> Assunto: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Howdy, > >> >> >> So you really have a classpath environment variable that's bigger > >> than > >> >> >> 128KB? (If that's really the limit, as you say in your original > >> >> >message). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yoav Shapira > >> >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:51 PM > >> >> >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List' > >> >> >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The point here is that my classpath is very big and even > >> using > >> >> >> >environment variables winnt complain about it. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> ---------- > >> >> >> >> De: Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >> Responder: Tomcat Users List > >> >> >> >> Enviada: sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 10:47 > >> >> >> >> Para: Tomcat Users List > >> >> >> >> Assunto: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Howdy, > >> >> >> >> You can use the environment variables on windows as well. And > >> FYI, > >> >> >> >though > >> >> >> >> I'm not a big M$ fan, Windows XP and 2003 are not bad, I've > been > >> >> >> working > >> >> >> >> with them a bit without stability problems. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yoav Shapira > >> >> >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:16 AM > >> >> >> >> >To: 'Tomcat-User List' > >> >> >> >> >Subject: new JVM feature, just an idea > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Hello folks, as you know windows has a limit for > >> >> command-line ( > >> >> >> >> >something like 128kb ), iīm not a windows fan, but here for a > >> >while > >> >> i > >> >> >> >> still > >> >> >> >> >using this OS. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Then as we cannot change this behaviour ( in win95, win98 > >> >> and > >> >> >winnt, > >> >> >> >> >others i donīt known and i hope never use them ), would be a > >> good > >> >> >idea > >> >> >> >> make > >> >> >> >> >JVM read classpath form a file named .javarc like > .bash_profile > >> >and > >> >> >> >there > >> >> >> >> >create a entrypoint like: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >########################################################### > >> >> >> >> >#/home/edson/.javarc > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >classpath=d:\arquiv~1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\commapi\comm.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinregion.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinlf.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\xerces-1.2.2.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\ecs-1.4.1.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\java_cup\java_cup.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\hsqldb_v.1.61\lib\hsqldb.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\junit3.7\junit.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xmltask.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml-apis.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\optional.jar;\ > >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\ant.jar; > >> >> >> >> >########################################################### > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Here i give up to find a solution for my winnt, because > there > >> >> isnīt > >> >> >> >> >solution. Then iīll create a new ClassLoader for my winnt > >> machine > >> >> to > >> >> >> >find > >> >> >> >> >my > >> >> >> >> >classpath in this file also. What do you think about it? Does > >it > >> >> >could > >> >> >> >be > >> >> >> >> a > >> >> >> >> >good implementation for JVM for windows or all JVMs? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> >> > Edson > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential > >> business > >> >> >> >> communication, and may contain information that is > confidential, > >> >> >> >> proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only > for > >> >the > >> >> >> >> individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, > >> >copied, > >> >> >> >> printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not > >> the(an) > >> >> >> >> intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from > >> your > >> >> >> >> computer system and notify the sender. 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