Thatīs right, but even using a GUI IDE like JBuilder or Netbeans
this problem can occours, because in a low level these tools make a command
like to compile, to build a webbapp or to create a jar file.

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> De:   Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Responder:    Tomcat Users List
> Enviada:      sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 15:18
> Para:         Tomcat Users List
> Assunto:      RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> >     And Yoav, you did say that in almost 10 years no one complains about
> >it, but as i know there are many people facing this issue all over
> internet
> >also. My neibour here has a windows 2000, he will make some tests with
> its
> >command line.
> 
> I misunderstood your problem when I said no one else has it.  What you
> describe is a common issue.  It used to be more common before people used
> Ant and IDEs, when they did more stuff on the command line.  I just
> haven't compiled anything in a DOS window for ages, so I forgot ;)
> 
> Yoav Shapira
> 
> >
> >> ----------
> >> De:        Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Responder:         Tomcat Users List
> >> Enviada:   sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 14:41
> >> Para:      Tomcat Users List
> >> Assunto:   RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >>
> >>
> >> Howdy,
> >> I see -- thanks for the example.
> >>
> >> You do realize Ant adds a lot of these jars for you automatically to
> the
> >> classpath, right?  You don't need to add anything in ANT_HOME/lib, as
> >> that's automatically included.  Furthermore, if you're using JDK 1.4 or
> >> later, you can remove a bunch of other jars from the path as they're
> >> included in the JDK, e.g. JAXP, Crimson, JDBC 2.0 extensions.  Finally,
> >> you have a number of duplicates, e.g. the XML APIs, repeated a number
> of
> >> times in the path.
> >>
> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> Millennium ChemInformatics
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:35 PM
> >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >
> >> >  This mainly it happen with ant, here a snapshot of it:
> >> >
> >> >D:\home\edson>set
> >> >LOCALCLASSPATH=d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xmlta
> >> >sk.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml-
> >> >apis.jar;d:\usr\local\j
> >> >akar
> >>
> >ta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-
> >> >1.5.4
> >> >\lib
> >> >\optional.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-
> >> >1.5.4\lib\ant.jar;d:\arquiv~1\
> >> >j2sd
> >> >k1.4.1_01\commapi\comm.jar;d:\usr\local\skinlf-
> >> >1.2.4\lib\skinregion.jar;d:\u
> >> >sr\l
> >> >ocal\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinlf.jar;d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\xerces-
> >> >1.2.2.jar
> >> >;d:\
> >> >usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar;d:\usr\local\ecs-
> >1.4.1\ecs
> >> -
> >> >1.
> >> >4.1.
> >>
> >>jar;d:\usr\local\java_cup\java_cup.jar;d:\usr\local\hsqldb_v.1.61\lib\hs
> q
> >> ld
> >> >b
> >> >.jar
> >> >;d:\usr\local\junit3.7\junit.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-
> >> >1.5.4\lib\x
> >> >mlta
> >> >sk.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml-
> >> >apis.jar;d:\usr\local\j
> >> >akar
> >>
> >ta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-
> >> >1.5.4
> >> >\lib
> >> >\optional.jar;d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-
> >> >1.5.4\lib\ant.jar;d:\desenv\os
> >> >ctrl
> >>
> >>_lib\classes;d:\desenv\osctrl\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\ifin
> a
> >> nc
> >> >e
> >> >\cla
> >>
> >>sses;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\intranet\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src
> \
> >> se
> >> >r
> >> >vlet
> >>
> >>s\panfinance\classes;d:\desenv\pannet\src\servlets\base\classes;d:\desen
> v
> >> \p
> >> >a
> >> >nnet
> >> >\java-lib\jasper-runtime.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-lib\jasper-
> >> >compiler.jar;d
> >> >:\de
> >> >senv\pannet\java-lib\jdbc2_0-stdext.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\tinySQL.ja
> >> >r;d:
> >> >\desenv\pannet\java-lib\servlet.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\ojdbc14.jar;d:
> >> >\des
> >> >env\pannet\java-lib\shell_term.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\crimson.jar;d:\
> >> >dese
> >> >nv\pannet\java-lib\jconcept.zip;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\com.zip;d:\desenv\
> >> >pann
> >> >et\java-lib\acme.zip;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\xBaseJ.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\j
> >> >ava-
> >> >lib\oreilly.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >lib\mail.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib
> >> >\jst
> >> >yle.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-lib\jndi.jar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\jcServl
> >> >et.j
> >> >ar;d:\desenv\pannet\java-
> >> >lib\activation.jar;d:\jbuilder4\lib\jaxp.jar;d:\arq
> >> >uiv~
> >> >1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\lib\tools.jar;d:\arquiv~1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\lib\dt.jar;.;;
> >> >
> >> >  I couldnīt take correctly antīs command line, but i think that it
> >> >gives some idea.
> >> >
> >> >> ----------
> >> >> De:     Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Responder:      Tomcat Users List
> >> >> Enviada:        sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 14:07
> >> >> Para:   Tomcat Users List
> >> >> Assunto:        RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Howdy,
> >> >> It's fascinating other people in the almost decade-long history of
> the
> >> >> language haven't had this problem.  Don't you find that curious? ;)
> >> Can
> >> >> you post one such classpath example that's giving you problems?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:03 PM
> >> >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> >> >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >> >
> >> >> >       Exactly, thatīs it! Even using environment variable in a
> MSDOS
> >shell
> >> >> >you can reach the line limit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> ----------
> >> >> >> De:  Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> Responder:   Tomcat Users List
> >> >> >> Enviada:     sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 13:57
> >> >> >> Para:        Tomcat Users List
> >> >> >> Assunto:     RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Howdy,
> >> >> >> So you really have a classpath environment variable that's bigger
> >> than
> >> >> >> 128KB?  (If that's really the limit, as you say in your original
> >> >> >message).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:51 PM
> >> >> >> >To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> >> >> >> >Subject: RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >    The point here is that my classpath is very big and even
> >> using
> >> >> >> >environment variables winnt complain about it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> ----------
> >> >> >> >> De:       Shapira, Yoav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> >> Responder:        Tomcat Users List
> >> >> >> >> Enviada:  sexta-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2003 10:47
> >> >> >> >> Para:     Tomcat Users List
> >> >> >> >> Assunto:  RE: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Howdy,
> >> >> >> >> You can use the environment variables on windows as well.  And
> >> FYI,
> >> >> >> >though
> >> >> >> >> I'm not a big M$ fan, Windows XP and 2003 are not bad, I've
> been
> >> >> >> working
> >> >> >> >> with them a bit without stability problems.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> >> >> >> Millennium ChemInformatics
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >From: Edson Alves Pereira
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:16 AM
> >> >> >> >> >To: 'Tomcat-User List'
> >> >> >> >> >Subject: new JVM feature, just an idea
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Hello folks, as you know windows has a limit for
> >> >> command-line (
> >> >> >> >> >something like 128kb ), iīm not a windows fan, but here for a
> >> >while
> >> >> i
> >> >> >> >> still
> >> >> >> >> >using this OS.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Then as we cannot change this behaviour ( in win95, win98
> >> >> and
> >> >> >winnt,
> >> >> >> >> >others i donīt known and i hope never use them ), would be a
> >> good
> >> >> >idea
> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >JVM read classpath form a file named .javarc like
> .bash_profile
> >> >and
> >> >> >> >there
> >> >> >> >> >create  a entrypoint like:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >###########################################################
> >> >> >> >> >#/home/edson/.javarc
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >classpath=d:\arquiv~1\j2sdk1.4.1_01\commapi\comm.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinregion.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\skinlf-1.2.4\lib\skinlf.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\xerces-1.2.2.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\lib\jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\ecs-1.4.1\ecs-1.4.1.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\java_cup\java_cup.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\hsqldb_v.1.61\lib\hsqldb.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\junit3.7\junit.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xmltask.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xml-apis.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\xercesImpl.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\optional.jar;\
> >> >> >> >> >d:\usr\local\jakarta\apache-ant-1.5.4\lib\ant.jar;
> >> >> >> >> >###########################################################
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >  Here i give up to find a solution for my winnt, because
> there
> >> >> isnīt
> >> >> >> >> >solution. Then iīll create a new ClassLoader for my winnt
> >> machine
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >find
> >> >> >> >> >my
> >> >> >> >> >classpath in this file also. What do you think about it? Does
> >it
> >> >> >could
> >> >> >> >be
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >good implementation for JVM for windows or all JVMs?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >  Regards,
> >> >> >> >> >  Edson
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
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