RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...

Martin van den Bemt Fri, 25 May 2001 11:33:12 -0700

For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those e-mails).
I attach it again (the first message about this to the maillinglist
contained the attachments).


Mvgr,
Martin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>
> > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
>
> Attached it where?
>
> In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> different than the one they originally signed up with.
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > list pays the price.
> > >
> > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> > > the address to remove from the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > > > that email?
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by
> someone.. (it's not
> > > > mine...)
> > > >
> > > > Mvgr,
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Milt Epstein
> > > Research Programmer
> > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

The original message was received at Fri, 25 May 2001 10:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
from localhost [127.0.0.1]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    (reason: 550 User unknown)

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Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-in.namezero.com
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Arrival-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:50:51 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
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Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 User unknown
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:50:52 -0700 (PDT)

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From: "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:44:35 +0200
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The attached message had PERMANENT fatal delivery errors!

After one or more unsuccessful delivery attempts the attached message has
been removed from the mail queue on this server.  The number and frequency
of delivery attempts are determined by local configuration parameters.

YOUR MESSAGE WAS NOT DELIVERED!

Failed address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
  Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  MX-record resolution of [jakarta.apache.org] in progress (DNS Server:
202.54.12.15)...
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202.54.12.15)...
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  220 win2kweb.itreya.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version:
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: Message contains [1] file attachments

I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
>
> > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people who signed up
> > for the list with a web-based mail account and just stopped using
> > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > list pays the price.
>
> I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> typically that the email address that is bouncing did not match up to
> any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so easy to find
> the address to remove from the list.
>
>
> > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so they can remove
> > that email?
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> >
> >
> > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and that's a lot
> > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by someone.. (it's not
> > mine...)
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists already...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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