I'd prefer to see a news group rather than this mailing list. Something
like comp.infosystems.www.servers.apache.jakarta or just
comp.infosystems.www.servers.jakarta would be appropriate. For that
matter, there should be comp.infosystems.www.servers.apache group too.
The ms-windows and unix subgroups of www.servers aren't very appropriate
since many of the issues relating to Apache are common to multiple OSs.
Swart, James (Jim) ** CTR ** wrote:
>wowsers. That's a good idea.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jann VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:18 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??
>
>
>Umm, wouldn't dividing the groups just give us MORE off topic problems?
>
>If someone WANTS the job of moderating the hundreds of post in this list
>they can, but I am not going to volunteer.
>
>I think some kind of canned footer that is added to mail through the list
>can be very helpful. It should have links to FAQ, info on unsubscribing,
>and list archives. This sounds much less labor intensive than moderating.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hemant Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:09 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??
>
>
>HI Jeff:
>I agree with your idea
>When after downloading most of the files are asking
>how to unsubscribe, duplicate mails, lab, lab
>it really pains
>How abt dividing this group into several parts,
>Like one for tomcat configuration
>- Servlet prblems, etc
>
>
>--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately, we are dealing with 'people' here.
>>It is a shame that there is not a 'filter' to
>>eliminate
>>'stupid' people, but as hard as I've tried, I just
>>can't
>>program it. If someone else can, please make it an
>>Opensource project....
>>
>>But, then again, we would probably get 'stupid'
>>people
>>contributing, so those filters would be invalidated.
>>
>>Man, it looks like we're screwed.
>>
>>As an example, *I* use a bicycle as my primary
>>means of transportation, and have had similar
>>ideas about 'people' who drive cars.
>>I decided *I* was screwed quite some time ago.
>>
>>Delete is a wonderful thing!!!
>>
>>(If only it was as effective on motorists)
>>
>>(Hmmm, probably 98% of the people reading this
>>are motorists...)
>>
>>(Sorry, but if the shoe (wheel) fits...)
>>
>>-Jeff
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "jakarta-tomcat-user"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:18 PM
>>Subject: Should we do moderation on this
>>mailinglist??
>>
>>
>>>Hi to everybody who is actually trying to get some
>>>
>>information on this
>>
>>>mailing list, or to help others,
>>>
>>>
>>>The 2 weeks I've been a member here, just trying
>>>
>>to get new ideas and help
>>
>>>others out with tomcat issues, I would say, were
>>>
>>pretty horrible. about
>>50%
>>
>>>of the mail is actually rubbish (which means
>>>
>>double mails, requests for
>>
>>>unsuscribing and other SPAM. This can have a
>>>
>>couple of couses :
>>
>>><irritated mode on>
>>>- Most people cannot read
>>>- Most people cannot think logically
>>>- Most people should not be able to subscribe to
>>>
>>this list
>>
>>>- Most people shouldn't wast other people's time,
>>>
>>so they still want to
>>help
>>
>>>people.
>>><irritated mode off>
>>><solution mode on>
>>>- "members" with no active e-mail address should
>>>
>>be deleted right away
>>(who
>>
>>>has the rights to do that?), so people don't
>>>
>>resend messages again. (I
>>
>>>mailed the owner of the mailinglist, but haven't
>>>
>>had a reply yet..)
>>
>>>- Don't allow misuse of the mailinglist anymore :
>>>
>>block those senders
>>
>>>immidiately from the mailinglist (that's what they
>>>
>>want it seems) ==> are
>>
>>>there any facilities for that.
>>>- Don't reply to misuse of the mailinglist
>>>- Off topic messages can be nicely redirected to
>>>
>>the appropiate area.
>>
>>>- Let everyone state clearly what they are using
>>>
>>(rh 7.1, windows 2000,
>>
>>>which version of tomcat, etc). A lot of replies
>>>
>>are pretty useless if they
>>
>>>have another version of the product. Also the
>>>
>>probability that the correct
>>
>>>people (the people actually using tomcat on a
>>>
>>rh7.1 box, will reply..)
>>
>>>- Send a "rules" e-mail to subscribers.
>>>- Send stuff that's not interesting (like someone
>>>
>>suggested in the list
>>
>>>today), directly to the sender of the mail. (If I
>>>
>>have made a commercial
>>
>>>solution for a problem or question, I mail to
>>>
>>peoples private e-mail
>>
>>>address, as an example..)
>>>
>>>The common goal should be :
>>>
>>>Users helping users!!
>>>
>>>Just trying to get some improvement here.. I think
>>>
>>a lot of people are
>>
>>>currently giving up on this list and that's not
>>>
>>good for tomcat (at least
>>
>>>that's what I think)
>>>
>>>Mvgr,
>>>Martin van den Bemt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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