On 6/27/2026 1:41 PM, Dan Bookwalter via Topband wrote:
ok , this isn't a topband question , but , you guys will have better advice 
than anywhere else..
so , I am in a very compromised situation , I live in a double , we have an 
elevated wood deck, combined both sides of the deck is 45x22. what i am 
thinking is a Hustler 6BTV out at the edge of the deck , the base will be about 
15' above ground.

Hi Dan,

About 15 years ago, I gave a talk on Getting On 160M From a Small Lot. It's mostly about counterpoise systems. None of it is my original work, all is great stuff from others. It includes MANY approaches for very limited real estate.

A connection to earth does NOT make a transmitting antenna work better, but it's quite necessary for lightning protection. So is every part of the ground system for our home and station. I've also done talks on that.

There are slides (as a pdf) for both on my website. k9yc.com/publish.htm

A VERY important point about short antennas -- base-loading, in the form of a loading coil is the absolute worst way to do it. FAR better is top loading. Something like a vertical pole, fed from the base, with wires running horizontally from the top. The diameter of those wires doesn't matter much. Like radials, more is better. The problem with base loading coils is that current is maximum there, near zero at the far end. Current through a wire is what makes EM radiation, but current in a coil does NOT radiate, but current distribution is determined by the open end of the antenna. So current has fallen off a lot by the time it gets to the top of the loading coil.

There was a GREAT two-part piece in QEX about this that included the theoretical development, extensive experimental work building antennas with loading at various points of short antennas, and careful measurement of the resulting field strength. One of the things it showed is that NEC does NOT properly model what actually happens.

73, Jim K9YC







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