Hi Scott

maybe I am wrong but although SPIN is itself owl-based (meta-wise) I still
see a difference in directly owl-based (only dependent on a standard) and a
rule/constraint as a language that has to become a standard first....

but ok, the message is like : when you want constraints modelled take the
spin/sparql route...
what brings me to...what is the current status and outlook of spin and the
actual acceptance as constraint language?
and, is there a potential overlap with RIF developments?
(like I see in http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-rif-dtb-20100622/)

sorry if the question is already wrong, I am a bit newbee in this rule stuff

gr Michel


2012/9/25 Scott Henninger <[email protected]>

> On Sep 25, 9:38 am, "Bohms, H.M. (Michel)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Once in a while we ask ourselves: what is the best way to model
> numerical constraints.
> > In the past we used SPIN/SPARQL constraints but can't we do it more
> rdf/rdfs/owl-based?
>
> Michel; I don't see the distinction you are trying to raise.  For
> example, the OLW 2 RL profile written in SPIN **is** OWL based.  It is
> an implementation of OWL rules.  It also does all of the OWL-based
> consistency checking.
>
> Please note the distinction between consistency checking and
> constraints.  OWL consistency checks cover just a few FOL (first-order
> predicate logic) inconsistencies, such as declaring that an instance
> is a member of disjoint classes.  Constraints cover any data
> relationship that can be computed by the reasoner - SPARQL in the case
> of SPIN.
>
> > Like simple example: SmallCar being subclass of Car with length property
> where SmallCar has length < 2 ('meter' acc. to nasa ont.)
> >
> > (Or subclasses for "requiredItems" as subclasses limiting the solution
> space in case of configuration processes).
> >
> > Kind of hasValue but then more flexible "hasLessThanValue etc.
> >
> > Guess all this is OWA-related like the examples in:
> http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/1476/expressing-constraints-...
> >
>
> You can write SPIN constraints for all of these.  It is not part of
> RDFS or OWL inferences, though, by definition of the standards.
>
> -- Scott
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