On 8/05/2018 15:39, Rob Atkinson wrote:
Thanks Holger
what I'm trying to do is follow the TBCME as IDE for EDG model - and
get things working in TBC that can be deployed after testing to an EDG
production environment.
Accessing EDG instance built into TBC would do - but there is a bit of
a disconnect between the eclipse project and the EDG persistence
model. As I want to script data management tasks, then I dont really
want to invoke EDG UI processes - but if there were equivalent modules
i could invoke from SWP that is gauranteed to result in the same data
in the persistence layer as importing via EDG then thats probably a
good starting point.
That would leave me with the challenge of how and where to inject this
workflow on invocation of my application built from the SWA template.
Would it be sensible to customise the ClassPropertyTreeGadget to
invoke this SPIN if it doesnt find subclasses? That way it would be
invoked once, and if I changed the target graph then it would be
re-invoked?
No, I would not recommend this. Ontologies typically don't change that
often, and there is overhead in adding triples (and there is no real
place for them). Why not just fix the ontologies while you are in TBC?
Holger
On 8 May 2018 at 13:20, Holger Knublauch <hol...@topquadrant.com
<mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
Hi Rob,
the most common way to get data into TopBraid web applications
(EDG) is via file import. The RDF file importer will add missing
rdfs:subClassOf triples, because other people stumbled over this
too. The importer will execute all SPIN rules from the file
TopBraid/SKOS/skoscleaner including
# Ensure that each named class has at least one named superclass
(owl:Thing as fallback)
INSERT {
?this rdfs:subClassOf owl:Thing .
}
WHERE {
FILTER (isIRI(?this) && (afn:namespace(?this) !=
afn:namespace(owl:Thing))) .
FILTER NOT EXISTS {
?this rdfs:subClassOf ?class .
FILTER isIRI(?class) .
} .
}
If you are not going through file import, please run the above
rule through some other workflow (attached to owl:Class for
example, to bind ?this correctly). This execution shouldn't happen
each time that the application renders, but hopefully only once.
It doesn't sound like you are using EDG, but FYI 6.0 will have a
button to execute arbitrary SPIN/SHACL rules from the web UI. In
the absence of this, you'd need to trigger these yourself, e.g.
using sml:ApplyTopSPIN.
Holger
On 8/05/2018 12:16, Rob Atkinson wrote:
Ok, I was about to respond... right, the class tree in the
SWA applications needs to use asserted rdfs:subClassOf
triples - the automated inferences that TBC makes are not
visible.
That seems a pretty critical piece of behaviour which ought to
have big(ger?) flags in the documentation - and it seems to
choose something arbitrary if it doesnt find anything? (maybe it
create a help message as a virtual class to inform if no
subclasses are present.)
OK - is it possible then for it to be clever and import a SPIN
rule which finds what entities are present then asserts the
necessary subclass axioms? Does such a thing already exist?
I would appreciate a quick recipe for exactly how to do this - I
havent yet got up to working out how to automate SPIN processing
- I want some "system" rules to happen automatically but be able
to invoke other SPIN rules manually in SWP interfaces FYI
rob
on another front:
file 1( which shoiws correct class hierarchy in EDG, but
doesnt show imports in TBC )
TBC assigned a default baseURI
file:///C:/repos/surround/provrules/pizza_example/out/pizza_prov_out.ttl
when I change this in the baseURI and named Ontology in the
file to:
http://www.co-ode.org/ontologies/pizza/pizza_prov_out/
<http://www.co-ode.org/ontologies/pizza/pizza_prov_out/>
TBC then displayed import correctly.
I guess the owl:imports statements were dangling off the
<http://www.co-ode.org/ontologies/pizza/pizza_prov_out/>
<http://www.co-ode.org/ontologies/pizza/pizza_prov_out/>
resource which was not identical to the declared base URI. It
seems that you have fixed that.
Holger
(I still need to allocate time for your other, longer, email)
On Tuesday, 8 May 2018 10:44:22 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote:
Ahh - it seems top have dumped the screenshots...
I'm talk about two ontologies which import the same
class model showing different set of classes in the
class navigator pane (North-west) in a SWA template -
but the same classes if i open them in TBC
Rob
On Friday, 4 May 2018 13:11:48 UTC+10, Holger Knublauch
wrote:
Sorry, I need more details to be helpful.
Are you referring to the class hierarchy view, or
what is shown on the main area (forms)? What sort of
instances are you looking at?
Holger
On 4/05/2018 12:29, Rob Atkinson wrote:
I have a SWA template based application that shows
me different class models in the class navigator
depending on which of two simple graphs I view -
even though they import the same model ontology.
What controls what is shown in the Class navigator
- in fact customising this is the next step but
first I need to find out what its sensitive to...
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