Good point. We (the Sponsor R group) have done no usability testing nor are we 
planning to. I don’t think we really have the time or skills for that, 
unfortunately. Maybe Tor more broadly has resources to put into a sophisticated 
re-branding effort. In any case, we do use these words every day and can make 
an intentional choice now. And for some things, words just didn’t even exist.

Best,
Aaron

> On Feb 10, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Adam Shostack <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 01:13:26PM -0500, A. Johnson wrote:
> | Hello all,
> | 
> | Several of us [0] working on hidden services have been talking about 
> adopting better terminology. Some of the problem
> 
> |     1. '''onion service''' should be preferred to refer to what is now 
> called a "hidden service". If other flavors of onion services develop in the 
> future, this term could refer to all of them, with more specific terms being 
> used when it is necessary to make the distinction.
> |     2. '''onionsite''' should be preferred to refer to a website (i.e. an 
> HTTP service serving up HTML) available as an onion service. This can be 
> extended to other specific types of services, such as '''onion chatroom''', 
> '''onion storage''', '''onion cloud service''', etc.
> |     3. '''onion address''' should be preferred to refer specifically to the 
> xyz.onion address itself.
> |     4. '''onionspace''' should be used to refer to the set of available 
> onion services. For example, you can say “my site is in onionspace” instead 
> of “my site is in the Dark Web”.
> |     5. '''onion namespace''' should be used to refer to the set of onion 
> addresses currently available or used "recently" (context-dependent).
> | 
> 
> 
> Have you done usability testing to see how people react to the onion
> terms, how explainable they are to non-technical journalists, or what
> connotations it might have across cultures?  
> 
> My experience has been changing terminology is expensive and slow, and
> it's worth exploring lots of alternatives.
> 
> Adam
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